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Old 10-08-2012   #196
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1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Brees
4. P Manning
5. Roethlisberger
6. E Manning
7. Rivers
8. Romo
9. Ryan
10.Stafford or Schaub

I dont think Rivers is better than Romo, also Matt Ryan is very quickly molding into a real real good QB..
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He is DEF top 10, but top 5 is def stretching it.
Not really. Why should Eli, Big Ben, or any of the others be ahead of Romo? People point to Super Bowls well it's a team gam folks. Tony's supporting cast is nowhere near as good as some of those guys has been and is especially Eli.
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Old 10-08-2012   #198
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I would rank the top-5:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Peyton Manning
5. Tony Romo
Eli is better.. it pains me to say it, but he is... Big Ben is better also in my opinion... Romo is about 7-8.. For me that pretty damn good, but I just dont see him top 5 and I LOVE Romo...
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Eli is better.. it pains me to say it, but he is... Big Ben is better also in my opinion... Romo is about 7-8.. For me that pretty damn good, but I just dont see him top 5 and I LOVE Romo...
How are they better? Romo's numbers blow theirs out of the water. Like I said earlier they simply have and have had much more consistent and reliable supporting casts. Our Romo on the Giants or Steelers and he has two Super Bowls if not more than that.
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Old 10-08-2012   #200
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No one has out him over Brady, Rodgers or Brees as far as I know, but you can make the argument he's better than the other guys. Eli and Ben have rings sure, but they had the benefit of great defenses, solid offensive lines, and solid run games. Tony hasn't.
I get what your saying, but I just dont think its fair to hold that against them.. I think they deserve more credit than your giving them...
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I hate Vick. And I believe Romo is a much better QB than Vick ever was, or ever will be. But Vick and Romo play two different styles, so passing stats are not necessarily apples to apples. You seem to always confuse passing stats with the greatness of a QB. There is MUCH more to being a championship QB than passing stats.

You WILL figure that out one day, as you understand more of what you see.

There is NO WAY at all that VIck is better than Romo NONE... I truly believe Vick is the most overrated QB of all time... QB, Not athlete... Vick will not be the starting QB for PHilly by years end... He is insanely overrated as a QB ( not athlete )
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Here's why Manning is better...

Manningham leaves to go to SF... no problem, Ill just go to Hixon, or Nicks... oops, Nicks is hurt... well then just make a star out of some guy named Ramses Barden who had a great game two weeks ago..

Barden hurt.. no problem, Ill bring in this cat named Reuben Randle, and get him a boatload of receptions..

Now, are the Giants just the only team with good receivers, or is Eli able to make them great?
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Old 10-08-2012   #203
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Until Romo wins a SB, or goes deep in the playoffs, he's not better than the the other 31 QB's in the league.

It does not matter what other QB's around the league have regarding the team around them...their QB can suck, but they still win...like the 49'ers.

But, Romo should be placed under Alex Smith because that team is helping him out.

On the other hand, Romo sucks because his teammates have not helped him out much...so, Romo is a loser, Smith is better...point blank!

Hell, even the greatest QB on the planet just won his first game this year!

And, the second greatest QB on the planet lost his game.

Romo sucks,,,get over it!


dude come on,, this is crazy..
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How are they better? Romo's numbers blow theirs out of the water. Like I said earlier they simply have and have had much more consistent and reliable supporting casts. Our Romo on the Giants or Steelers and he has two Super Bowls if not more than that.
Romo's numbers also blow Aikman's and Staubach's numbers out of the water; does that make him better than them? Being a great QB takes more than putting up big numbers.

Romo has played with much better supporting casts than this year, on offenses that could run and put up points. Romo doesn't have to win a SB, but he does have to win. There have been QBs without a SB team around them who have been able to win.
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Not really. Why should Eli, Big Ben, or any of the others be ahead of Romo? People point to Super Bowls well it's a team gam folks. Tony's supporting cast is nowhere near as good as some of those guys has been and is especially Eli.
Why wouldnt he be?.. The Steelers have a ****ty O line who are all hurt and havent been the same ina while... Ben extends alot plays and is huge and hard to bring down.. Yes, his defense is light years better than the Cowboys in seasons past, but the guy deserves alot of credit for the things that he is done.... YOu cant just dismiss someone because he has a better team.. Come on... Im one of Romo's biggest supporter, I love the guy... But I just think its unfair to take credit away from those other guys. In all honest its very close as to who is better, but im not saying you are saying this, but if your telling me its not even close than you be wrong... Its very close as to who is or isnt better
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Also the Steelers Defense is NOT what it used to be.. They are getting old and they banged up
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Here's why Manning is better...

Manningham leaves to go to SF... no problem, Ill just go to Hixon, or Nicks... oops, Nicks is hurt... well then just make a star out of some guy named Ramses Barden who had a great game two weeks ago..

Barden hurt.. no problem, Ill bring in this cat named Reuben Randle, and get him a boatload of receptions..

Now, are the Giants just the only team with good receivers, or is Eli able to make them great?
Romo sure made Laurent Robinson look like a starting-caliber receiver last season.

Romo sure made Kevin Ogletree look like one against your team.

Both quarterbacks have made mediocre receivers look like stars at times, which can probably be said of most of the upper-tier quarterbacks.
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Romo sure made Laurent Robinson look like a starting-caliber receiver last season.

Romo sure made Kevin Ogletree look like one against your team.

Both quarterbacks have made mediocre receivers look like stars at times, which can probably be said of most of the upper-tier quarterbacks.
I agree, Romo is THAT GOOD.. he made those players MUCH better than what they are
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This is one of the least biased ones I've seen. Every time we get ready to label Romo as an Elite QB he lays an egg. Then when we yank the elite status away from him he goes out and lights it up.

The problem is that he doesn't consistently light it up, especially late in the season. It is better to keep him at #12/#13 until he actually gets this team into the playoffs. History is not on his side and until that changes he isn't deserving of the Elite QB comparisons.
I still don't get why putting Romo as a fringe top 10 QB makes me a "hater" according to most fans on this site. Last time I checked, Romo at 13 still puts him comfortably in the top half of the league... and should be considered a "good" starter. That's how the rest of the league views him and outside of the few Cowboy fans that drink too much of the kool-aid, NO ONE calls Romo a top 5 QB.

There are always excuses with Romo and the latest is that his OL is to blame. I don't know if those fans watch the other 31 teams in the NFL, but ALL QBs get pressured, hit and sacked throughout a football game. By the way they tell it, you'd think the Cowboys put together a HS JV line in front of him yet the OL ranks 7th in the NFL in sacks allowed... go figure.

Excuses are for losers, either he gets it done or he doesn't... no one will care about excuses when his career is over. The guy is 32, has missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 seasons, and is leading the 31st ranked scoring offense in the NFL. He MUST stop having the meltdowns on the big stage for this team to take the next step.

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Big Ben is definitely Top-5. If there's any debate then he's 5A and Eli is 5B or vice versa. The guy has a terrible OLine and he gets beat up just as much if not more than any other QB...it just doesn't look like it because he's a big guy and can absorb the hits
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