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Old 10-08-2012   #76
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Romo has been able to perform with a weak Oline. He's been doing it since he took over for Bledsoe. When is he going to get one that allows him to move up from 6-12 to 1-6 QBs in the league? His talent and choice to improve himself allows him to be in the 6-12 conversation.

And this isn't only about the QB being productive behind the line put in front of him. What about the run game? Where is the push that allows the runner to get to the second level? However, it's hard to even have a discussion about the run and Oline when we've only run it 79 times for the year.

I did not say that the Oline was the sole reason for the lack of production of this team. We are still looking for defensive line push and pressure, we're looking for a coach to commit to the run game even when behind in a game as well as other things. But you can't sit here and tell me that the Oline is not the most glaring weakness of this team right now.

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He had one we went 13-3 and then lost in the Divisional round of the playoffs best Oline we had. The oline we had against Seattle in his first playoff was solid but Tony was off that day that was far from being on the oline.
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Old 10-08-2012   #77
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He had one we went 13-3 and then lost in the Divisional round of the playoffs best Oline we had. The oline we had against Seattle in his first playoff was solid but Tony was off that day that was far from being on the oline.
That best o-line got absolutely shattered against the Vikings.
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Old 10-08-2012   #78
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That best o-line got absolutely shattered against the Vikings.
We lost to the Giants 13-3 year after having a lead in the first half

The Vikings one was when Wade was stupid enough to put Colombo back in over Free (Before Free started to suck) after being out with injury and he was not ready and that was the year they destroyed the Eagles three times that year. Think they where 10-6 are 11-5 They Beat teh Eagles in the Wild Card game and then got owned by the Vikes
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Old 10-08-2012   #79
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Not calling plays but suggesting things to the coach that will benefit the team.
Could I ask how do you know Romo isn't doing just that? I doubt there is a QB who ever played the game that did not suggest things to help his team...
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I refuse to use the offensive line as an excuse from this point on in the season.

I refuse to believe that Katy Perry won't go out with me.
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Old 10-08-2012   #81
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The Cowboys had some good squads pre-2011 and then went into transition. I thought they were fairly average last year, this year they are playing bad (although against Bears pass blocking was okay) but a lot of other teams are as well.

I do agree about the excuses, it is what it is... I think talking about trying to upgrade with new players is more of an off-season discussion.

It is hard, but some teams have compensated for their deficiencies at o-line with play elsewhere to find a lot of success in the past. Steelers with Big Ben buying time, Giants with Eli hitting the hot route to Cruz all day last year, Cardinals with Kurt Warner making quick throws to Boldin and jump balls to Fitz, Bears utilizing a great screen game with some down-field shots, etc etc...
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That best o-line got absolutely shattered against the Vikings.
Ding ding ding! They also got blown up by Philthy the year before that and they were manhandled by NYG in the aforementioned playoff game. It's ridiculously obvious even if you have another axe to grind.
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Arizona leads the league in sacks allowed and is 4-1 with a far worse QB than we have. Our offensive line hasn't given up nearly as many sacks as some other teams. Granted, some of it is because of Romo's ability to escape pressure, but the issues with our team extend far beyond our offensive line. How about scoring 3 offensive TD's (not counting Kyle Orton's TD Pass) in 3 weeks? If the OL is going to be held accountable, then so is the rest of the team INCLUDING our QB. I'm sorry, but with all the talent we have, we should be able to score more than 21 points on offense in 3 games.
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It doesn't matter how bad the OL is, Romo has to be better!!!!!

solid thought, threadstarter. you clearly have a firm grasp on this subject.
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I'm sorry, but with all the talent we have, we should be able to score more than 21 points on offense in 3 games.
Maybe our "talent" that everyone talks about endlessly just isn't that good....
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Maybe our "talent" that everyone talks about endlessly just isn't that good....
Yeah people have been overrating our talent for years and this is no different.
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Any Cowboys fan who watches the games knows that Romo does have time to throw on certain downs but has sometimes made crucial mistakes. Yes the line can use some improvement but that excuse for me is too convenient because as the QB you have to adjust to the O-Line you have and make plays. I;m sure he can't walk up to Jerry Jones and say I would be able to play better if the O-line was a lot stronger. So Romo needs to accept that this is the line he is playing with the rest of the season and try to do his best to be effective. If he feels the other team's defense is rushing a lot then it's up to him to communicate that to the coach so they can work together to make an adjustment. Also no QB can ever use the O-line as an excuse for why the offense is not scoring because he is not paid to just all the protection in the world on every down. And lastly, when Romo's career is all done with and he never made the SB or only won 2 playoff games, are people really going to say he [View Full Quote]
Sadly, I think Jerry Jones agrees with you
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You can't ignore the offensive line problems. You just can't. When a guy is constantly seeing pressure he is gonna force throws. He can't keep taking hits or sacks where he's gonna either fumble the ball or take a huge loss. Every hit Romo takes he is closer to going down for the season. Sure Romo has made some poor decisions, but at least half of his mistakes have been on the offensive line for not protecting him well. Not only that the run blocking hasn't been there. No run game means more throws for Romo and with this offensive line if you're gonna make Romo throw 40 plus times a game you're gonna see the same mistakes over and over again. We have to find a way to establish the run game and take pressure off of our quarterback. If not this season will go downhill very, very quickly.
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I am just amazed its gone on this long.

But then the OP is someone to whom reality is the undiscovered country.
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