Seems Like Cowboy Fans Are Really Down

[Chocolate Lab]

I agree, and that goes even for my friends who have never read a Cowboys message board.

But think about it, we're now 3-6 over our last nine games. And the only really good win in there was the opener this year against the Giants. Those nine games include the Arizona self-frozen kicker game, the fourth quarter collapse against the Giants, the Eagles home loss where we pulled Romo, the total no-show against the Giants, and the Seattle and Bears games where we looked like we were barely playing for at least parts of the game. The other two wins other than the Giants were the Bucs last year when they had completely imploded and the Bucs this year when our offense was absolutely inept.

So you can't really blame people. It's been a long stretch of bad football now.

[MichaelWinicki]

Do I see a team with a lot of flaws?

You bet.

Do I see a lot of teams out there with a lot of flaws?

Oh yeah.

I think the offense can play better than what it has.

I think the defense is good.

They could end up 8-8.

They could end up 10-6.

I wouldn't be surprised in either instance.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Do I see a team with a lot of flaws?

You bet.

Do I see a lot of teams out there with a lot of flaws?

Oh yeah.

I think the offense can play better than what it has.

I think the defense is good.

They could end up 8-8.

They could end up 10-6.

I wouldn't be surprised in either instance.

I am always disappointed when they lose but I tend to focus on signs of improvement. I am encouraged by the play of the defense but am discouraged by the lack of a pass rush and turnovers.

On offense, I would be encouraged if they would just eliminate all the mental mistakes. Seems to that is their biggest challenge.

[Cowboy_Shawn]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I agree, and that goes even for my friends who have never read a Cowboys message board.

But think about it, we're now 3-6 over our last nine games. And the only really good win in there was the opener this year against the Giants. Those nine games include the Arizona self-frozen kicker game, the fourth quarter collapse against the Giants, the Eagles home loss where we pulled Romo, the total no-show against the Giants, and the Seattle and Bears games where we looked like we were barely playing for at least parts of the game. The other two wins other than the Giants were the Bucs last year when they had completely imploded and the Bucs this year when our offense was absolutely inept.

So you can't really blame people. It's been a long stretch of bad football now.

Basically we've been in the same neighborhood as the Cleveland Browns.

That's pretty sobering.

[jazzcat22]

Originally Posted by blackbull

Lol at year two of three. While Harbaugh has Alex Smith with the highest passer rating. Some of you fans are just like the team, full of excuses.

It took the 49ers 2 to 3 years if not 4 to get to that position, they didn't do it over night. Get your facts straight.
Last year it was being said at the beginning of the season it was year 2 of 3.
Actually during pre season last year norm Hitzges was saying this, and people thought he was nuts...turns out he was right....

[Future]

Originally Posted by fffiasco

Since Garrett took over i believe he started rebuilding. This is year 2 of 3. He has successfully overhauled the LB corp and secondary. The Dline is also getting there with Hatcher and Crawford. Next year he will shore up the Oline and Safety position and i truly believe we will then be contenders.

I don't really know your posting history, so Idon't mean this as a jab at.

But I'm curious how many will credit JG for improving those units, and bag on Jerry for the holes on Oline and at safety

[BrAinPaiNt]

The only thing this team is consistent at is being inconsistent and when that is a trend that has gone on for years under different coaches, coaching styles, offenses, defeneses and players...well you get a fan base that is tired of it.

Last year people complained when JJT said we were a .500 middle of the road team. But truth said at that time he was right but people argued we should wait till the end of the season to see and again he was right. It is not like he is a genius, because he is not. He, and many fans, have seen enough from this team over the years to see what is going to happen.

Even when we get a good year and figure we can grow on it and improve the next year...we wind up having a let down.

I honestly do not know how anyone can honestly look at this team the last few years and so far this year and think we are primed for a Superbowl run. I mean I could say I am and if it happens I could bow my chest out and say...See I told you, but in reality it is just nothing more than a broken clock being right a couple times a day or a blind squirrel getting a nut because every indication says other wise with this team.

I want results.

I don't want to hear a coach talk about stacking up and processes every time someone asks him a question and than we are to cheer and laugh at how he plays the press like a fiddle...maybe he has in the past but when the team is getting killed in some games and looks like they are giving up in others...that is not playing the press like a fiddle that is just falling back on lame cliches that don't fix a problem.

I want results.

I don't want players telling the press that they just need to execute better and will do a better job. I want their actions to speak not their words and so far the actions are not covering the check the words have wrote.

I want results.

I don't want to see players not being able to know where they are to line up during games...something we have seen many times over the years.
I don't want to see players continue having offside penalties or holding penalties...something we have seen many times.

Wanna watch something...watch the next game or two and see how many times the offense has penalties again. They did ok last game because they were getting roasted by the press and fans about the penalties before. They can seem to adjust for a game or two but watch and see if they don't go back to the same thing again. Just like when the team gets accused of Passing too much and not running enough...normally when that happens the next week they will over compensate and try to run to much.

This falls back to the team only being consistent at inconsistency.

I can understand a fluke loss here and there. Every team has had those over the years. I can understand another team just being better. Those can happen to every team.

This teams lack of discipline, this teams lack of consistency would get any fan down.

Less Words...More Results and on a consistent basis.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Originally Posted by jazzcat22

It took the 49ers 2 to 3 years if not 4 to get to that position, they didn't do it over night. Get your facts straight.
Last year it was being said at the beginning of the season it was year 2 of 3.
Actually during pre season last year norm Hitzges was saying this, and people thought he was nuts...turns out he was right....

They did???

Singletary was a horrible coach and in 2010 SF was 6-10 with 9ers fans demanding Alex Smith gets cut. Harbaugh takes over and in 2011 they went 13-3 and makes Alex Smith out to be "coachable."

That is over night.

[anava]

Originally Posted by DallasDW00ds0n

They did???

Singletary was a horrible coach and in 2010 SF was 6-10 with 9ers fans demanding Alex Smith gets cut. Harbaugh takes over and in 2011 they went 13-3 and makes Alex Smith out to be "coachable."

That is over night.

That was without an offseason and he is looking even better this year.

[Hostile]

It couldn't possibly be that the light came on for Alex Smith and he lived up to his potential. Yes, Harbaugh contributes to that. Of course.

But if Alex Smith goes down, are you convinced Harbaugh keeps them this viable? If so, that's some incredible confidence.

[anava]

Originally Posted by Hostile

It couldn't possibly be that the light came on for Alex Smith and he lived up to his potential. Yes, Harbaugh contributes to that. Of course.

But if Alex Smith goes down, are you convinced Harbaugh keeps them this viable? If so, that's some incredible confidence.

Could it be Harbaugh turned the light on for Alex Smith? Isn't that the coaches job to get the best out of all their players? That is exactly the arguement here. We have had a bunch of underacheivers that the coaches just cant seem to play to their max potential.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Originally Posted by Hostile

It couldn't possibly be that the light came on for Alex Smith and he lived up to his potential. Yes, Harbaugh contributes to that. Of course.

But if Alex Smith goes down, are you convinced Harbaugh keeps them this viable? If so, that's some incredible confidence.

You don't think that SF could still be successful without Alex Smith? Usually people feel Alex Smith is the one guy holding that team back.

I really feel Jim has been the one able to bring out the best in Alex and I have a feeling if asked, Alex would probably agree.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Here is something else that will get you down as a fan.

So far this year we are 29th in the league in rushing, 271 yards rushing and have 1 rushing TD.

Here are the teams that have only 1 Rushing TD, or less, so far this year...

Dallas Cowboys 1
Jacksonville Jaguars 1
New York Jets 1
Oakland Raiders 1
St Louis Rams 0
Tennessee Titans 0

So far the Combined records of those teams are 10-18 with only one team over .500 (Rams).

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Last year we were 18th in the league in Rushing, 1,807 and had 5 rushing TDs.

Here are the teams that had 5 or less TDs last year...

Cleveland 4
Kansas City 5
Dallas Cowboys 5

So with Dallas, Cleveland and KC last year we had a combined record of 19-29.

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Now I am sure there are other stats one could find to prove other things, good or bad.

However it does seem whether or not we are a passing team or not, we need to improve our Rushing TDs.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

^ I agree 100% and I honestly thought we would have after last year, but after our FA pluggins binge I knew this team wouldnt improve; and so did most people on this board. Many were critical after the draft and offseason debacle.

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Originally Posted by Zordon

i'm good bro. i was talking strictly sports. i'm way past the cowboys making me down. all i do is laugh about losses now. i'm definitely at the apathy stage, which is actually a lot healthier for me.

Yeah well that's good to here.