Macky B

[GiveDezdaBall88]

If you gave Macky B a training camp for his entire life he would still suck.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Blah blah blah Burm. Nice to see you took a break from internet porn long enough to come and complain about the O-line so more

your excuses are wearing real thin.

typical that you still blindly follow the company line.

Any relation to Micky?

[kirkjrk]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Remember when Ron Leary was going to be a factor in the OL this year?

Good times.

As I remember,could be wrong, Callahan is the coach that recommended all 3 of these signings--Leary, Livings and Macky B. He was either restricted with what he could spend on OL or he has no idea,none, on evaluating OL.

So he was the one that recommended these 3 poor lineman and he has been unable to coach them up. He has also not been able to coach up Free or Smith. Only positive I've seen is one week of penalty free OL. Why do we have him? He's worthless as the below avg. OLinemen.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

your excuses are wearing real thin.

typical that you still blindly follow the company line.

Any relation to Micky?

What a lame characterization. I've been incredibly critical of many aspects of this team over the years.

I do try my best, however, not to be a premature evaluator. But you seem comfortable with your PE.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

I'm pointing out that if a player misses most of training camp while rehabbing an injury and he goes out and gets abused by a great DT that it might not be useful to make projections based on those performances

But I do realize that distinctions other than Black and White are a bit too complex for most of the folks on this board

It is a black and white issue. He was not starter quality in Carolina. He was given the chance to start and failed. Why would he be any good in Dallas? Callahan is not the miracle worker that some thought. Actually, he has failed as a coach. His three hand picked linemen has stunk.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by jnday

It is a black and white issue. He was not starter quality in Carolina. He was given the chance to start and failed. Why would he be any good in Dallas? Callahan is not the miracle worker that some thought. Actually, he has failed as a coach. His three hand picked linemen has stunk.

It may well turn out that way. Me, I recognize that a guy coming off two surgeries may get his *** whooped by quality DTs. You really can't make miracles happen if your guy doesn't get any work in.

And Livings hasn't stunk.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

When did he become an OG?

When did he become an OT?

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by jnday

I agree. Houck did a fine job coaching Tyron and it proved a point to me. A coach is only as good as the talent that he has to work with. It is notvasvsimple as getting a big guy and coaching him up as some posters think. The sad thing about this line situation is that the team and fans will forget about how bad they are when draft time rolls around. You will hear the same comments about linemen not being worth early picks and you can always get good linemen in the late rounds. I don't care who the coach is if some quality linemen are not drafted they will fail.

Houck's a legend. Easily one of the most revered OL coaches in league history but I started to wonder if he just got too old the last few years. Then Tyron arrived and thrived under Houck's coaching his rookie year. As a 20 year old. That convinced me of what I knew all along. It's a talent issue. These players just suck.

All the Callahan talk in the offseason was good for a laugh.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

It may well turn out that way. Me, I recognize that a guy coming off two surgeries may get his *** whooped by quality DTs. You really can't make miracles happen if your guy doesn't get any work in.

And Livings hasn't stunk.

Bern didn't make any miracles for the Panthers either. Find another excuse. As for Livings, he may have played better than any other lineman. That doesn't mean he didn't stink. Raise your expectations. The whole bunch needs to go with the exception of Tyron and he needs to up his play at LT. Tyron is young enough to get much better.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Remember when Ron Leary was going to be a factor in the OL this year?

Good times.

leary was a shoe in starter, all arkin needed was woicik, and nagy/killer were steals.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

What a lame characterization. I've been incredibly critical of many aspects of this team over the years.

I do try my best, however, not to be a premature evaluator. But you seem comfortable with your PE.

the guy was never much in Carolina
They made no attempt to keep him

He has stunk so far with us

You probably thought OJ was innocent as well
Despite the evidence

[Prossman]

We went cheap on bringing in offensive lineman in free agency and drafted none. We did need to fix our secondary arguably more than our interior oline but the fact remains .....we went cheap. Now we pay the price for it. Bernadeu has been awful, something needs to be done but probably wont. I dont get the lack of any kind of sense of urgency with jerry and Steven Jones. We bring in radaway and not Holland or anther og? I dont get it.

[durrrr]

The preferred nickname is Bernie Mack.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by GiveDezdaBall88

You do realize you're talking about the same guy who couldn't even start on the Carolina Panthers?

He was penciled in to start but got hurt in preseason last year. His replacement played well.

Now that raises other concerns about his durability but that is not a good basis for your claim.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by durrrr

The preferred nickname is Bernie Mack.

bernie mack was actually talented.