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Cowboys&LakersFan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by KJJ

Bradford isn't as good as Romo and he doesn't have as good a receivers but Fisher has the Rams 3-2. Fisher is doing more with far less talent.

Read what I said. Their wide outs are smarter not more talented.

KJJ · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Read what I said. Their wide outs are smarter not more talented.

Maybe they're better coached ever considered that?

McLovin · 10-10-2012

For fun

Here is the top 2 rounds for Dallas drafts since 2000

Bold - Still on Patriots as starter or 2nd string
Italics - Still in the league

1st rounders

12 picks
3 - CBs (Claiborne, Jenkins, Newman)
3 - Dline (Ware, Spencer, Spears)
2 - WR (Bryant, Roy Williams trade)
1 - LB (Carpenter)

1 - OL (Smith)
1 - RB (F Jones)
1 - S (R Williams)

2nd round (the real fun)

13 picks
3 - LBS (Lee, Carter, Burnett)
3 - Oline (Rogers, Gourode (ret), A Johnson)
2 - TE (Fasano, Bennett)
1 - RB (J Jones)
1 - WR (A Bryant)
1 - QB (Q Carter - cut for drugs)
1 - CB (D Goodrich - Killed someone w/ car and went to jail)
1 - S (Tony Dixon - made R Williams look like Ed Reed in coverage)

NE hits over 50% and dallas hits about 40%

25 picks
10 - currently on the team
4 - still in the league for other teams (Bennett and Fasano still scratch my head)
2 - retired with nice career (Gourode, R Williams Sfty)
9 out of the league (7 from 2nd rd and the R Williams WR fiasco)

KJJ · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Read what I said.

From reading what you've said it's clear you haven't watched the Rams.

Cowboys&LakersFan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by KJJ

Maybe they're better coached ever considered that?

Not really. Even before we hired Garrett the receivers weren't didn't exactly have a great football IQ.

McLovin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by KJJ

From reading what you've said it's clear you haven't watched the Rams.

Many things are clear from his posts....

McLovin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Not really. Even before we hired Garrett the receivers weren't didn't exactly have a great football IQ.

Derp

TO, Crayton, Austin, Glenn

KJJ · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Not really. Even before we hired Garrett the receivers weren't didn't exactly have a great football IQ.

Before we hired Garrett Wade was the coach the players quit on him. Do you see my point? It's coaching!

Cowboys&LakersFan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by McLovin

Derp

TO, Crayton, Austin, Glenn

Laughing emotions is that all you got? As great as TO was you do know he was notorious for dropping the football right?

McLovin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

Laughing emotions is that all you got? As great as TO was you do know he was notorious for dropping the football right?

I got alot of these

TO's football IQ is why he dropped balls? Your point was Football IQ. Check his stats in 2007 and get back to me homeboy. Garrett was here in 2007, NO?

I have some of these too

KJJ · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

And again it's because he holds on to the ball far too and isn't very mobile. Bradford is like your classic pure pocket quarterback. Can't really get out of the pocket at all. Tony as we all know is the exact opposite. Incredibly mobile, can avoid the pressure and sacks that's why he doesn't get hit or sacked nearly as much as Bradford does.

What you're pointing out makes the Rams 3-2 start under Fisher even more impressive. That team doesn't have close to the talent the Cowboys have but are playing better football. They beat a Seattle team that totally throttled the Cowboys and just beat a 4-0 Cardinals team.

McLovin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by KJJ

What you're pointing out makes the Rams 3-2 start under Fisher even more impressive. That team doesn't have close to the talent the Cowboys have but are playing better football. They beat a Seattle team that totally throttled the Cowboys and just beat a 4-0 Cardinals team.

Why do you bother? You have the patience of JOB

koolaid · 10-10-2012

Hell, I'll give it a shot.

1. Since Garrett has become coach the overall talent and quality of the team has improved. Our defense in particular is loaded with young talent and I believe it could become one of the best in the NFL for years to come. Some people here hate on Claiborne because of the cost but he could become a a true shutdown corner.

2. We have put an emphasis on character guys. Dez is really the only guy on our roster who is a question mark IMO.

3. When we are clicking we can beat anyone. I truly believe that.

4. Jason Witten and other leaders have endorsed him.

5. He is 15-13 as our head coach. He took over a team that was obviously flawed and has done good work with our roster.

6. He has upside. Lets not forget he has only coached 1 full season as our head coach. That was last year with a short off season. The jury is still out on this season. If he brings us to 3-2 after this Sunday, (a tough task against Baltimore) things will look a lot brighter around here.

7. As Hos and other posted have said, we are not the only team who thinks he is head coaching material.

8. We have the head to head against the giants.

9. We have a better record than the Packers.

10. We were VERY close to winning the NFCE last year.

RoyTheHammer · 10-10-2012

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Well clearly Bradford isn't as good as Romo is when it comes to avoiding sacks/pressure. He often holds the ball too much.

I agree, Romo often holds the ball too long.

RoyTheHammer · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys&LakersFan

And again it's because he holds on to the ball far too and isn't very mobile. Bradford is like your classic pure pocket quarterback. Can't really get out of the pocket at all. Tony as we all know is the exact opposite. Incredibly mobile, can avoid the pressure and sacks that's why he doesn't get hit or sacked nearly as much as Bradford does.

..and this post means nothing in regards to how good or bad each team's OL is. Care to qualify your earlier statement on how the Rams OL is "far better" than the Cowboys when they have their guy pressured more, hit more, and sacked more?

Other than, "Tony is good at sensing pressure and avoiding sacks."

..because, while that's true, its not an argument that the Rams line is far better.