In NFL history

[Diogenes]

Depending on the amount of support Harrison receives, the Colts could very well end up with HOFers at all six positions five years after Manning retires.

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by jobberone

SF had a better starting three and two than we every had. Jerry, TO, and ?Taylor. They also had two HOF QBs on the same team. BTW, it pains me to say this; a great deal.

Pfft on the Niners

QBs. Aikman, Staubach, White, Romo, Meridith, Morton.
TEs. Witten, Novacek, Dupree, Cosbie, Ditka, Smith.
WRs. TO, Irvin, Pearson, Hill, Hayes, Rentzel, Alworth, K-Mart, Williams, Glenn, Harper.
RBs. Smith, Dorsett, Hill, Thomas, Perkins, Walker.
FBs. Newhouse, Johnston, Garrison.

O-linemen. Allen, Williams, Donaldson, Step, Tuinei, Newton, Gogan, Neely, Niland, Ker, Nye, Rafferty, Fitzgerald, Donovan, Scott, Wright, Gurode, Hellestrae (one of the greatest LS in NFL history)

D-linemen. Andrie, Jeffcoat, Dutton, Cole, Ellis, Clarke, Tolbert, Lilly, Martin, Maryland, Pugh, Too Tall, Lett, Manster, Gregory, Haley, Hennings, Casillias, Bathea, Hatcher, Ratliff.

LBs. Ware, Jordan, Coakley, Dat, Lockhart, Smith, Breunig, Edwards, Myles, Norton, Hegman, Howley, Lewis, James.

D-backs. Deion, Pearson, Thurman, Newman, Smith, Williams, Teague, Renfro, Marion, Clinkscale, Washington, Barnes, Downs, Woodson, Waters, C Williams, R Williams, Walls, Fellows, Harris, Gaechter, Green, Bates.

Punters. Saxon, McBriar.

Kickers. Septien.


Not all were great, but I dont think anyone could come up with this many Niners. And Id take these guys over their equivalents on ANY team.

[perrykemp]

Originally Posted by Diogenes

Depending on the amount of support Harrison receives, the Colts could very well end up with HOFers at all six positions five years after Manning retires.

Ok, I can't resist. :-)

For the record, the Packer HOFers at those skill positions the OP listed are:

QB: Starr (Already in), Herbner (Already in)
HB: Lambeau (Already in), McNally (Already in), Canadeo (Already in), Hornung (Already in)
FB: Hinkle (Already in), Jim Taylor (Already in)
WR: Don Hutson (Already in), James Lofton (Already in)

So they go at least two deep at each of the Hall of Fame positions today.

Possible and/or probable future HOFers include:

Favre (QB)
Sharper (Safety)
Woodson (not drafted by the Packer so I wouldn't count)
Rodgers (maybe if he plays at his current level for another 6-8 years)

Honorable Mention:

Sterling Sharpe (Only played 6 years, but was totally on a HOF track)
Reggie White (I'd count him as an Eagle)

There are about another 10-15 Packers HOFers that don't fit into the skill positions categories that the OP mentioned -- guys you probably never heard of like Forest Gregg, and Ray Nitschke.

Just saying. I wouldn't say the Cowboys necessarily are the clear cut favorites for the best all time collection of best players ever.

Not sure I have it in me to try to compare the nearly 50+ Packer and Cowboys in the hall of fame and/or going to be in the HOF in the near future. Especially hard to compare because of the different eras -- particularly the early Packers guys.

[muck4doo]

Originally Posted by DMAC

One could consider Detriot:

QB's
Bobby Layne
Dutch Clark

RB's
Barry Sanders
Doak Walker

WR's
Calvin Johnson
Herman Moore

Probably still give the cowboys the edge.

How can you mention Detroit RB's, and forget Billy Sims?

[perrykemp]

Originally Posted by muck4doo

How can you mention Detroit RB's, and forget Billy Sims?

Or Charlie Sanders, their HoF tight end.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Not sure I have it in me to try to compare the nearly 50+ Packer and Cowboys in the hall of fame and going to be in it. Especially hard to compare because of the different eras -- particularly the early Packers guys.

Oh, I had no doubt the Packers had it covered. The main reason I referenced the Colts was because all will have played in the SB era. Many recently with guys like Harrison, James and Wayne all with at least a chance at making the HOF. It's a good conversation.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by muck4doo

How can you mention Detroit RB's, and forget Billy Sims?

Billy was one of my favorites, but the OP ask for two, and I couldn't put him ahead of Doak, and of course not ahead of Barry.

[Fastphilly]

Originally Posted by GoCowboysGo

True, but if Murchison had been a mediocre owner, he would have built a better team around Danny White, we should be able to say we had two HOF'ers on one team with Staubach and White.

It will always torment me how great Danny White was and how little respect he gets.

I'm a Niner fan, and the first game I ever seen was the 1981 NFC Championship with Joe Montana against Danny White. Danny White played a great game and hit a deep inside post to Pearson which would have sent you guys to the SB if not for a horsecollar tackle by Dwight Hicks. Didn't White take the Cowboys to three consecutive NFC championships? Not an easy feat. There are going to be quarterbacks that were very good in their era that never get the recognition they deserve in as history has shown. Danny White, Roman Gabriel, and Jim Kelly come to mind.

[Fastphilly]

Originally Posted by Star4Ever

I'm talking about all six positions with any one franchise, not just QBs, etc. all six.

The 49ers come up short in running backs IMO. Roger Craig was as much a receiver than a runner if my childhood memory serves correct and I can't put Craig in the discussion of a traditional style running back. The Cowboys in my opinion have the clear cut win on RB over any team in the league. Dorsett and Smith were awesome. I know some will not like this, but even though Smith has the rushing record, I feel Dorsett was the better back. He was faster than Smith and IMO Smith benefitted from a better OL than Dorsett. Dorsett made cuts, took it to the outside (and could because of speed) and up the middle. Smith would pound up the middle most of the time due to the Grand Canyon sized running lanes by your top notch OL. Still amassing the rushing record is no easy task so kudos to both!!

QB? It's a tough choice between the Colts (Unitas and Manning) and the 49ers (Montana and Young). I say the Niners since I'm bias .

Wide receiver? There are many teams with great wideouts over the years but there is only one Jerry Rice! John Taylor was a great receiver as well, but doesn't get mentioned as much since he played opposite Jerry Rice.

[Fastphilly]

Originally Posted by Ntegrase96

The Cowboys have a rich history with players, but I think we tend to overrate some of our own.

RB Category probably blows everyone out of the water just because of the combination of Dorsett and Emmitt, but WR and QB...? Lots of great combinations around the league to compete with.

I guess, what this thread is really asking is if the Cowboys have the best 'all time' team.

I'd certainly have to put them up there, but I think the 9ers take the cake.

I don't know about that. Even as a Niner fan, I have to say the 93 Cowboys were one of the best teams I have ever seen. No one could get though that OL. The running game was so good that you knew Aikmans play action pass was going to be deadly.

I would have love to see the 1993 Dallas team play against the 1984 or 1989 49ers. Man that would be a game of the ages!!!

[Hostile]

I had to know for sure.

Emmitt...17,162 as a Cowboy. Tony...12,036 as a Cowboy.

29,198 yards for our top 2 guys.



Bears, Payton...16,726. Neal Anderson...6166. Rick Casares...5657

28,549 for the Bears top 3. Sayers had less than Casares.



Lions, Barry Sanders...15,269. Sims...5106. Dexter Bussey...5105.

25,480 for the Lions top 3.


Here's something else. If you look at the numbers for the Bears and Lions 2nd and 3rd all time leading rushers, all four of those guys have less than our 3rd leading rusher, Don Perkins at 6217.

Our 3rd leading rusher would be 2nd leading on both of those teams. Perkins is so under rated.

[KB1122]

For the Niners, you're forgetting YA Tittle.

The Colts go from Unitas to Morrall to Unitas to Bert Jones (NFL MVP) to ...... and then Chris Chandler to Jim Harbaugh to Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck.

[Wolfpack]

This is interesting to consider...

Browns:
QB: Otto Graham, Brian Sipe, Bernie Kosar
RB: Jim Brown, Marion Mottley, Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt, Kevin Mack
WR: Webster Slaughter, Bobbie Mitchell, Paul Warfield
TE: Ozzie Newsome

[muck4doo]

You know what I love about this conversation? No one has even thought about the Stillers.

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by muck4doo

You know what I love about this conversation? No one has even thought about the Stillers.

I thought about the most overrated team in NFL history when I was posting, just didn't wanna waste my time with it.