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Old 10-10-2012   #46
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He dropped too many balls in the Chicago game.. in that one game, he dropped too many balls.

That doesn't all of a sudden make him a guy who drops passes at a TO rate. Its one game in his career.

Dez had like 65 catches for almost 1000 yards and 9 TD's last year in his sophomore season. That's hardly "not living up to his billing".
Yes it is, haven't you read the Internet scouts here? He's the worst WR strapping on a helmet on Sundays in the entire league.
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Great OP. I disagree however.

Stats don't always tell the story.

Watching the games makes all the difference (and understanding/knowing football).

I think the kid has all the potential in the world. He is not great, he does not show that he is focused, and not for nothing...he really is not put in a situation to shine on this offense.

I do like his potential...but that means nothing if he doesn't embrace it. I am hoping that he finds it next season.
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"* Only two teams have dropped more passes than Dallas' dozen. Tight end Jason Witten (five) and receiver Dez Bryant (four) top the league in that category."
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Not good so far
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not to mention being a 3rd option after witten or miles. And our OC doesn't really do a good job at getting him the ball: bubble screens, reverses, slants and etc.
why is he third option? is it because he doesn't know his assigments? not run the right routes? etc.

he is the third option (if that) because he doesn't do his job well. if he did, he would be the first option.

and how does OC doesn't get him the ball? I saw him drop 4 balls in the bears game. saw him have a mis-read with his QB (film study). the OC puts him on the field. asks him to run his routes. get open. if he does, romo throws him the ball.

come on dude, this is too much of a dez apology if I have ever seen one.
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I think Green's numbers are inflated, who does Dalton have to throw to? JJ on the other hand, I think him and Dez are fairly similar. Both have an elite receiver and TE in front of them.
the other side of the coin is that if there isn't anybody else to throw to, then defenses will double green. yet he still makes catches and plays.
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I don't recall him not knowing where to go this year or dropping balls at an alarming rate.

Shall we expect more exaggeration in your next reply, as well?
lets make one thing clear. Dez is not a great player. he hasn't done anything to deserve that accolade.

what dez has is potential. un-realized potential.

if he was a great player then he would show more consistency and not have horrible games like this last game.

like it or not he is making a lot of mistakes. mental mistakes he is in his third year. we have all seen him disappear in games. we know he is inconsistent. we know his film study has been questioned. he is in his third year and he still makes fundamental mistakes. that's concerning. great players don't

does he have natural ability? yes. but that makes you good. not great.
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why is he third option? is it because he doesn't know his assigments? not run the right routes? etc.

he is the third option (if that) because he doesn't do his job well. if he did, he would be the first option.

and how does OC doesn't get him the ball? I saw him drop 3 balls in the bears game. saw him have a mis-read with his QB (film study). the OC puts him on the field. asks him to run his routes. get open. if he does, romo throws him the ball.

come on dude, this is too much of a dez apology if I have ever seen one.
Certainly, you realize how this isn't entirely accurate i would hope. You can't possibly think that everytime Dez is open he gets the ball?

He sure wasn't the third option during the Bears game though. I'd like to see how many targets he has this year compared to Miles or Witten.
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lets make one thing clear. Dez is not a great player. he hasn't done anything to deserve that accolade.

what dez has is potential. un-realized potential.

if he was a great player then he would show more consistency and not have horrible games like this last game.

like it or not he is making a lot of mistakes. mental mistakes he is in his third year. we have all seen him disappear in games. we know he is inconsistent. we know his film study has been questioned. he is in his third year and he still makes fundamental mistakes. that's concerning. great players don't

does he have natural ability? yes. but that makes you good. not great.
Did you see somewhere that i argued he was a great player?

He is certainly making some mistakes, but who on this offense isn't? I can forgive mistakes as long as he learns from them and continues to work hard to get better. I doubt we'll see another multiple drop game from him for awhile.
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Counter that with how many times he's actually open, and not thrown to. We can do that all day.
not that often.
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not that often.


..and may i ask, what makes you think that?
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Did you see somewhere that i argued he was a great player?

He is certainly making some mistakes, but who on this offense isn't? I can forgive mistakes as long as he learns from them and continues to work hard to get better. I doubt we'll see another multiple drop game from him for awhile.

they are comparing dez to pearson and irvin. certainly two great players. they are projecting him to be on the same path. they are putting the annointing oil before he deserve it. the body of work todate, compared to other WRs of this ERA doesn't support him projecting to a great player.

and you are on the bandwagon, defending dez.

dez is good.

not on the path to be great as yet.

he is got ways to go. has the potential, ability, but will he realize it?

not so sure.
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..and may i ask, what makes you think that?
same thing that makes you say he is open often!!!! what makes you say that?
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It's not just stats. Okay, I'll say it: Dez is an idiot.
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.

2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.

3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.

4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.

5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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they are comparing dez to pearson and irvin. certainly two great players. they are projecting him to be on the same path. they are putting the annointing oil before he deserve it. the body of work todate, compared to other WRs of this ERA doesn't support him projecting to a great player.

and you are on the bandwagon, defending dez.

dez is good.

not on the path to be great as yet.

he is got ways to go. has the potential, ability, but will he realize it?

not so sure.
Im defending Dez' production so far.. yes. Whatever label you want to throw on it, "good", "great", "grand", "wonderful", "smelly".. is up to you, but in just his second year he had 65 catches 1000 yards and 9 TD's. He's not nearly as far behind the pace as some of you think.

I asked where i said he was great.. your answer is nowhere, and that is correct. Im just not going to act like he's a complete bust so far even if you want to try and make that seem like a reasonable argument with your distorted perspective.
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Certainly, you realize how this isn't entirely accurate i would hope. You can't possibly think that everytime Dez is open he gets the ball?

He sure wasn't the third option during the Bears game though. I'd like to see how many targets he has this year compared to Miles or Witten.
did I say every time? but if he gets open, Romo will get him the ball. the notion that ROmo doesn't like Dez, or doesn't trust him, etc. is just laughable. an argument made by the dez defending camp.

Romo, witten, etc. all want to win. they don't play favorites. never seen people say witten is open and Romo doesn't throw him the ball. !!! certainly there are times that he is open and the ball goes somewhere else. same with Austin.

we saw last year Robinson come in, get opportunities. get open and get the ball. did romo have a thing for robinson!!!??

he is the third option!!! maybe if he played better, he would become the first option. the notion of being a first, second or third option is just too funny.

Dez was drafted to be the first option. he has not been able to sieze it. his game is not there yet.
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