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10-10-2012
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#16
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FOX Sports - Jones takes on too much in Dallas
Good read
This Sunday in Baltimore, we’ll see two of the league’s marquee franchises facing off against each other, in a contrast of both football and management styles.
Since 1996 the Dallas Cowboys have had eight quarterbacks, six head coaches and a single playoff win.
The Baltimore Ravens began their franchise the same year, and have had the same number of quarterbacks, but only half as many coaches and have celebrated 12 playoff wins and a Super Bowl trophy during that period.
What’s the difference? It’s not the market. Dallas is a much larger and more lucrative market than Baltimore, which finds itself hemmed in between Washington and Philadelphia. It’s not commitment to winning — both franchises are obsessed with the pursuit of excellence in the hypercompetitive environment that is the NFL in 2012.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/d...ibility-101012
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10-10-2012
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#17
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Spider 2 Y-Banana
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Another case of if you say it enough times loud enough, people will believe it.
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10-11-2012
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#18
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Aren't the Bengals the only other team with an owner/GM? Jerry has to spend too much time on opening Victoria's Secrets, rapping on Papa John's commercials, and other buffoonery that isn't related to success on the football field.
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10-11-2012
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#19
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Brian Billick: Jones takes on too much in Dallas
I know this is like throwing gas on the fire, but figured this article by Brian Billick might be interesting to some:
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This Sunday in Baltimore, we’ll see two of the league’s marquee franchises facing off against each other, in a contrast of both football and management styles.
Since 1996 the Dallas Cowboys have had eight quarterbacks, six head coaches and a single playoff win.
The Baltimore Ravens began their franchise the same year, and have had the same number of quarterbacks, but only half as many coaches and have celebrated 12 playoff wins and a Super Bowl trophy during that period.
What’s the difference?
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article continues here
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10-11-2012
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#20
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Originally Posted by casmith07
Another case of if you say it enough times loud enough, people will believe it.
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 is that what you do? Tell yourself everything is moving in the right direction, that 122-122, 17 years, and so on is just a myth?
“He doesn’t like it because Jerry thinks he’s the walk-around head coach." - Jimmy Johnson
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10-11-2012
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#21
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Nothing will change until it hits Jerry in the wallet. No matter who says it, Billick or whoever, Jerry believes this is the way to run a team and nothing will persuade him to do otherwise, unless the losing continues and people lose interest and stop buying what he's selling. Unfortunately he's not completely inept, just good enough to be mediocre and keep the fans interested.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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10-11-2012
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#22
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The Actualist
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10-12-2012
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#23
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28 Joker
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I've done some research on the Atlanta Falcons and their team. Their GM is Thomas Dimitroff, and he had to earn his way into his position. Dimitroff was highly qualified when he was hired by Atlanta. He was a combine/BLESTO Scout, Area Scout, National Scout, and College Director of Scouting. Furthermore, he has put together an impressive resume in Atlanta. Dimitroff has resurrected that franchise. I hope Felix Jones signs in Atlanta next year. The Falcons have a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick waiting in the pipeline of their offensive line. They have a pretty young line, too. Matt Ryan is becoming an elite quarterback, too.
Brian Billick knocks it out of the park here.
Last edited by 28 Joker : 10-12-2012 at 02:25 AM.
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10-12-2012
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#24
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THE BIG DOG
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Quote:
Originally Posted by casmith07
Another case of if you say it enough times loud enough, people will believe it.
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Kind of makes me wonder, if by chance we were to win another super bowl how long it would take before stories like started popping up again.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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10-12-2012
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#25
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Messenger to the football Gods
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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
Kind of makes me wonder, if by chance we were to win another super bowl how long it would take before stories like started popping up again.
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Kind of makes me wonder why you always have to throw in 'superbowl'. Would that make it worse to chastise a buffoon of an owner? After 17 years? Does it make the truth less truthful? Would it take the common denominator out of the mess this team was put in?
Superbowl. Pfft. We're residing with the browns and Bengals and the like. Bottom of the cellar. We'll take a stinkin playoff win........two years in a row reflecting a glimmer of hope that maybe we're back.
Lower the bar, dude. This ain't the storied franchise of yesteryear. We've got us a victorias secret in a stadium where women dance on columns and SELL standing room only tickets.
AS: Cowboys ice their own kicker in 19-13 OT loss
“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.
God help us...............
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10-12-2012
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#26
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The Actualist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven
Kind of makes me wonder why you always have to throw in 'superbowl'. Would that make it worse to chastise a buffoon of an owner? After 17 years? Does it make the truth less truthful? Would it take the common denominator out of the mess this team was put in?
Superbowl. Pfft. We're residing with the browns and Bengals and the like. Bottom of the cellar. We'll take a stinkin playoff win........two years in a row reflecting a glimmer of hope that maybe we're back.
Lower the bar, dude. This ain't the storied franchise of yesteryear. We've got us a victorias secret in a stadium where women dance on columns and SELL standing room only tickets.
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The sentiment has gone international which means it will bleed into the local media stronger than ever and the team will have to face having Jerrah as a step daddy.
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10-12-2012
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 28 Joker
I've done some research on the Atlanta Falcons and their team. Their GM is Thomas Dimitroff, and he had to earn his way into his position. Dimitroff was highly qualified when he was hired by Atlanta. He was a combine/BLESTO Scout, Area Scout, National Scout, and College Director of Scouting. Furthermore, he has put together an impressive resume in Atlanta. Dimitroff has resurrected that franchise. I hope Felix Jones signs in Atlanta next year. The Falcons have a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick waiting in the pipeline of their offensive line. They have a pretty young line, too. Matt Ryan is becoming an elite quarterback, too.
Brian Billick knocks it out of the park here.
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Dimitroff was part of the Browns staff and apprenticed under Belichik as well. Watch the NFL films show about that staff, you can find it on YouTube, interesting show IMO
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10-12-2012
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#28
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I've got moxie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 28 Joker
I've done some research on the Atlanta Falcons and their team. Their GM is Thomas Dimitroff, and he had to earn his way into his position. Dimitroff was highly qualified when he was hired by Atlanta. He was a combine/BLESTO Scout, Area Scout, National Scout, and College Director of Scouting. Furthermore, he has put together an impressive resume in Atlanta. Dimitroff has resurrected that franchise. I hope Felix Jones signs in Atlanta next year. The Falcons have a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick waiting in the pipeline of their offensive line. They have a pretty young line, too. Matt Ryan is becoming an elite quarterback, too.
Brian Billick knocks it out of the park here.
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I'd recommend reading The War Room by Michael Holley. He provides a lot of background on Dimitroff and how he came up working with Belichick and Pioli.
That is what a GM should be......someone who came up as a scout and worked under some experienced professionals.
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10-12-2012
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#29
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Finish!
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I love my Cowboys but we are going to get crushed in baltimore
29-10
Romo with 2 more INTS
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