Help Sell Me On Jason Garrett

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

IMO, that is a huge issue. There have been many examples of independent and established defensive coordinators that were in situ prior to a head coach being hired (LeBeau Buddy Ryan come to mind), but the almost theatrical orchestration of the not ready for prime time, head-coach-in waiting being hired prior to the supposed HC seemed really farcical. Although Garrett appears to be somewhat more in control of the team than Wade was, it is also clear that Jerry is still very much in command, Byzantine style.

Being in place as in already under prior contract is one thing. Making an actual new hire immediately prior to the head coach is altogether another.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by Doomsday

The real problem was no one was in charge of the team, JG ran his offense and Wade ran his defense. That left Jerry as the sudo HC so to speak. It seems like not too much has changed in that regard, only Ryan runs the defense now. I thought JG was going to be the HC in more then just title. When you have 3 people in charge, no one is in charge.

I believe you are saying exactly what I did.

It is hiring Garrett prior to Wade at the pay he was hired in at for OC/asst HC that created a 3-headed monster.

If Jerry is Owner/GM he needs a strong HC with FULL say over his staff at the very least. And Jerry controls how strong that HC can be by how much authority he gives him.

No matter what business you are in, you are set up to fail as the leader if you can't build your own team.

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by jterrell

I believe you are saying exactly what I did.

It is hiring Garrett prior to Wade at the pay he was hired in at for OC/asst HC that created a 3-headed monster.

If Jerry is Owner/GM he needs a strong HC with FULL say over his staff at the very least. And Jerry controls how strong that HC can be by how much authority he gives him.

No matter what business you are in, you are set up to fail as the leader if you can't build your own team.

Gotcha, guess I took your other post a bit out of context and I couldn't agree more.

I thought JG was going to be in charge of everything then you read comments from players on defense about how they barely interact with him.

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by jterrell

I believe you are saying exactly what I did.

It is hiring Garrett prior to Wade at the pay he was hired in at for OC/asst HC that created a 3-headed monster.

If Jerry is Owner/GM he needs a strong HC with FULL say over his staff at the very least. And Jerry controls how strong that HC can be by how much authority he gives him.

No matter what business you are in, you are set up to fail as the leader if you can't build your own team.

I saw that later, sorry. Yeah, I think that it's a violation of a fundamental leadership principal. No doubt Jerry throws a lot of prime ingredients into the mix with high profile player, assistant and coordinator signings, but they seem to be done somewhat independently of the HC. I thought that it was kind of a stretch to suggest that the players were playing well due to the fear of Jerry in the 2nd half of 2010, but I admit that I kind of wonder about that now.

I'm sure that there aren't many pure HC-in-charge scenarios in the NFL these days, but we seem to be very far away from the arm's length.....hire a head coach and

[1] Give him the authority and flexibility to hire his staff
[2] Let him be the face of the team, both internally and externally
[3] Give him AND his coaching staff time to sink or swim on his own merits w/o intervening

I think all of the 3 elements invests the coach in his position. He's got to make it work because it's his staff and reputation at risk, and the players know this and respond accordingly. The feel in Dallas has been more laissez faire from a coaching perspective under Wade and Jason, they seem loathe to be too assertive (for fear of something) and you have to believe that the players can sense it.

[igtmfo]

Although I see Lab on this board has it in his signature, it helps to see it in print:

Sparano called plays (Garrett was w. Dolphins):
2006: 4th scoring, 5th total off (yards per game)
Sparano assist HC, off line coach. Garrett OC and called plays:
2007: 2nd scoring, 3rd total off
Garrett solo OC without Sparano:
2008: 18th scoring, 13th total off
2009: 14th scoring, 2nd off
2010: 30th scoring, 16th off
2011: 15th scoring, 11th off

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Callahan as OC w. Raiders (his only NFL stint as OC)
1998: 22nd scoring, 22nd total offense
1999: 9th scoring, 9th total offense
2000: 3rd scoring, 6rd total offense
2001: 4th scoring, 7th total offense

[JonJon]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

I don't even think like this. Do you think that Murray is going to out running back Lewis?

I do wonder if Garrett's team is going to come out as unprepared and jittery as they have the last few weeks. I never accept that it's a foregone conclusion that we lose. I try not to be a defeatist in the face of adversity though.

I LOL'd.

[Gaede]

Originally Posted by igtmfo

Although I see Lab on this board has it in his signature, it helps to see it in print:

Sparano called plays (Garrett was w. Dolphins):
2006: 4th scoring, 5th total off (yards per game)
Sparano assist HC, off line coach. Garrett OC and called plays:
2007: 2nd scoring, 3rd total off
Garrett solo OC without Sparano:
2008: 18th scoring, 13th total off
2009: 14th scoring, 2nd off
2010: 30th scoring, 16th off
2011: 15th scoring, 11th off

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Callahan as OC w. Raiders (his only NFL stint as OC)
1998: 22nd scoring, 22nd total offense
1999: 9th scoring, 9th total offense
2000: 3rd scoring, 6rd total offense
2001: 4th scoring, 7th total offense

Nasty.

Great numbers though. Garrett's offense seems average at getting yards and average at getting points. Pretty consistently too. Not sure why we insist on having him call the plays when he has been producing consistently average offense.

We replaced Brian Stewart w/ Wade when he sucked at his job, so why can't we make a switch now?

[dallasfan4lizife]

Originally Posted by igtmfo

Although I see Lab on this board has it in his signature, it helps to see it in print:

Sparano called plays (Garrett was w. Dolphins):
2006: 4th scoring, 5th total off (yards per game)
Sparano assist HC, off line coach. Garrett OC and called plays:
2007: 2nd scoring, 3rd total off
Garrett solo OC without Sparano:
2008: 18th scoring, 13th total off
2009: 14th scoring, 2nd off
2010: 30th scoring, 16th off
2011: 15th scoring, 11th off

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Callahan as OC w. Raiders (his only NFL stint as OC)
1998: 22nd scoring, 22nd total offense
1999: 9th scoring, 9th total offense
2000: 3rd scoring, 6rd total offense
2001: 4th scoring, 7th total offense

I'm sure some of the weak cowboy fans on here won't use these stats to realize how bad oh a HC garrett is.

I mean if he can't handle the offense, do you think he can handle the whole team??

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by dallasfan4lizife

I'm sure some of the weak cowboy fans on here won't use these stats to realize how bad oh a HC garrett is.

I mean if he can't handle the offense, do you think he can handle the whole team??

Lots of great coaches didn't/don't run the offense.


The skills and abilities of a head coach and a great offensive coordinator are not the same. If they were, Norv would have multiple titles in San Diego.

I think it is almost certain Garrett would be a better head coach if he had less duties as a play-caller.

It is certainly less disruptive to have Callahan call plays through the end of the year than it is to go out and get a new head coach mid-season.