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10-13-2012
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#76
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You Have an Axe to Grind
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EGG
I don't think Campo's teams were any better or any worse, but with each passing season I do find myself a little more bitter and without hope than the year before.
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The teams were worse under Campo it's not even debatable. I'm beginning to think some of you weren't following the team back then. The talent Campo was handed wasn't even close to what Garret inherited. The only similarity between the teams is the coaching. Everyone figured Campo would get the job when Gailey got fired because he was a Jerry guy.
Campo's teams kept spinning their wheels for 3 straight seasons until Jerry hired a proven head coach. The team FINALLY started making progress immediately after Parcell's took over which was no surprise to anyone.
We may have to suffer through 3 straight 8-8 or worse seasons under Garrett before Jerry gets fed up and decides to hire another proven head coach to FINALLY get this team heading in the right direction.
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10-13-2012
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#77
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Senior Member
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anyone that says campo's teams were better didn't watch campo's teams play to be honest. All you will be back on the bandwagon sunday afternoon when Dallas wins 17 to 13.
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10-13-2012
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#78
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You Have an Axe to Grind
Joined: | Aug 2009 |
Location: | Malibu Ca |
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The jury is still out on Garrett but he may end up being the worst head coach the Cowboys have had if this team never finishes above 500 under him. There's talent on this team including a top 10 QB and a sackmaster in Demarcus Ware who will be a shoe-in first ballot Hall of Famer. The one thing Campo had going for him that Garrett doesn't is enthusiasm. Campo showed some fire and would get in the face of a player who wasn't getting it done.
When he was the secondary coach he almost came to blows with Tnew for screwing up. I was no Campo supporter because his teams weren't winning but they showed some fight, didn't quit and played with a lot more emotion than the current teams under Garrett. I'm sure there's unemployed coaches out there wishing they could get their hands on this Cowboys team with the talent it has.
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10-13-2012
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#79
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJJ
The teams were worse under Campo it's not even debatable. I'm beginning to think some of you weren't following the team back then. The talent Campo was handed wasn't even close to what Garret inherited. The only similarity between the teams is the coaching. Everyone figured Campo would get the job when Gailey got fired because he was a Jerry guy.
Campo's teams kept spinning their wheels for 3 straight seasons until Jerry hired a proven head coach. The team FINALLY started making progress immediately after Parcell's took over which was no surprise to anyone.
We may have to suffer through 3 straight 8-8 or worse seasons under Garrett before Jerry gets fed up and decides to hire another proven head coach to FINALLY get this team heading in the right direction.
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Sorry, dysfunctional teams who cannot execute and lack talent in key positions(several of the same positions) look alike to me. Six of one or half-a-dozen of another, the end results are all too familiar.
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10-13-2012
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#80
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jun 2004 |
Location: | New York, NY |
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Campo went 5-11 for three straight years with Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson at QB.
If we had either of those two QB's on this particular team, we'd be 0-4 and staring at a 3-13 season.
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10-13-2012
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#81
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Location: | New Jersey |
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With QC at qb for us now we would do worse than campo
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10-13-2012
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#82
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2004 |
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Campo really stunk it up but a ton of the blame has to go to Jerry. Not that Campo could coach it if he had it but what talent was on that team?
Campo was one of Jerry's 500 coaches. I really think that statement went beyond the SB team. I think Jerry thinks any one can coach the Cowboys with success as long as he's the GM. He thinks he's that good.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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10-13-2012
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#83
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2006 |
Location: | swamps of Jersey |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john van brocklin
You knew they were wanting in the talent department, but at least you got a 100% effort every game.
With this bunch of inconsistant underacheivers you never know what to expect.
They get your hopes up sky high with the win over the Giants,
then play terrible the next 3 games.
Frustrating Indeed !!!
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Your out of your mind there were awful. LOSERS thats what that team was. at least this team may show up may show up week to week team
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10-13-2012
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#84
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You Have an Axe to Grind
Joined: | Aug 2009 |
Location: | Malibu Ca |
Posts: | 7,070 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EGG
Sorry, dysfunctional teams who cannot execute and lack talent in key positions(several of the same positions) look alike to me. Six of one or half-a-dozen of another, the end results are all too familiar.
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What key positions on this team do you think lack talent? The OL lacks talent but as bad as the Cowboys OL is it's not nearly as bad as the OL Campo had. Campo's teams had a dreadful OL and a terrible QB situation talk about a bad combo. Every team under Jerry has been dysfunctional except for the teams that Jimmy and Parcell's coached.
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10-13-2012
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#85
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Senior Member
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Jerry bet the farm on Galloway. Unlike others, I had no problem with that move.
But when he tossed the chips on the table, he didn't assess where Aikman was. And this is the crux of why that team failed, and to a degree Campo failed.
With Rocket and Galloway and a healthy Aikman the team could have been more successful.
I have never thought Campo was a good head coach. But I have maintained we have no clue where his high water mark would have been had he had a real QB and not a shell of a former great. Plus two solid receivers and a running back.
Didn't happen. But so much is assumed about Campo that falls at the feet of the Galloway injury, the Aikman condition, and Jerry screwing the franchise with two firsts.
You've been weighed
You've been measured
And you've been found to be a casual fan
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10-13-2012
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#86
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJJ
What key positions on this team do you think lack talent? The OL lacks talent but as bad as the Cowboys OL is it's not nearly as bad as the OL Campo had. Campo's teams had a dreadful OL and a terrible QB situation talk about a bad combo. Every team under Jerry has been dysfunctional except for the teams that Jimmy and Parcell's coached.
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Wha?
This current OL doesn't deserve to be placed above any other OL,,, quite the opposite. They have been horrific, as predicted,,,,
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10-13-2012
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#87
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The Actualist
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 6,007 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by john van brocklin
You knew they were wanting in the talent department, but at least you got a 100% effort every game.
With this bunch of inconsistant underacheivers you never know what to expect.
They get your hopes up sky high with the win over the Giants,
then play terrible the next 3 games.
Frustrating Indeed !!!
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Wut...it is the same bunch and the same ol'....sarcasm? Campo was a nightmare.
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10-13-2012
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#88
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy
Wut...it is the same bunch and the same ol'....sarcasm? Campo was a nightmare.
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lol,,, that poodle drove me crazy and the fact that the team kept him around for years after the HC fiasco was dumbfounding. Every time I see him I think of him leading a chant on Hard Knocks and screaming "Cowboys" all by himself because he missed the count,, and the whole team laughing at him because he was an idiot.
I like Red infinitely better and haven't given up on him yet, the GM on the other hand,,,
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10-13-2012
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#89
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Captain Comeback
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 1,057 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Bill
Howdy back atcha!
Forgive my failing memory, but I don't recall a john van brocklin posting at the DMN. Did you have a different user-id or am I just getting (more) senile?
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Your memory is fine my friend.
I rarely posted, but was a serious lurker.
I enjoyed those who posted quality well thought out post,
and remember yours being in that catagory.
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10-13-2012
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#90
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You Have an Axe to Grind
Joined: | Aug 2009 |
Location: | Malibu Ca |
Posts: | 7,070 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EGG
Wha?
This current OL doesn't deserve to be placed above any other OL,,, quite the opposite. They have been horrific, as predicted,,,,
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If you think this OL is worse then the OL's under Campo then you weren't following the team back then. Of the QB's that have been sacked the fewest times this season Romo ranks 7th. In 02 Quincy Carter and Chad Huchinson were sacked a combined 53 times. Hutchinson was sacked 34 times in only 9 games that season. It was one jailbreak after another. The Cowboys ranked 30th in offense in 02. Even as bad as the Cowboys offense has struggled this season it still ranks 16th. As awful as the running game has been it still ranks 15th.
This offense moves the football night and day better than the offenses during Campo's years. It got so bad under Campo it forced Jerry to bring in Parcell's to fix the mess. The Cowboys have players on this team that can produce and make big plays but it's a poorly coached team that lacks focus, passion and discipline. The Cowboys have a roster full of talented underachievers and that all falls on the head coaches Jerry keeps hiring.
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