RGIII - 70%+ Completion Percentage

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

I am curious which RBs/WRs are gaining big yards after the catch on screen passes.

Besides the Garcon play in week 1 (a pass with 18 air yards before Garcon caught it) there haven't been HUGE YACs from behind the LOS.

I'm not sure if this site is updated for this week already but the Skins are 6th in the NFL in YAC.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders...e=NFL&rank=231

[Hoofbite]

I honestly don't know why the discussion is focusing on his pass distance or how many yards come after the catch or whatever.

It seems like a weird angle to work.

He's getting the job done. End of story.

He looks great.

Hes passing the ball very effectively and he's running the ball very well.

They've scored 10 less points than the Patriots and they have more rushing TDs at this point than Dallas will likely have all year.

Short passes, long passes, who cares?

Maybe Garrett could learn a thing or two from Shanny.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Houstonboys13

I'm not trying to be a Cowboys homer, but I think there is a good reason for that high percentage. Although he has been impressive as a rookie, when I’ve seen him play, a vast majority of his passes are little dinks and dunks that the receivers catch and run for a lot of yards after the catch.

Exactly right.

Close thread.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Imagine what Romo would do in a Shanny-Kubiak type of offense...

BTW, everybody in DC was pointing out how horrible their offensive line was last year and for the last few years, as much the complaints about the Cowboys OL. Coaching makes a huge difference...

[phildominator]

Madden '14 RGIII may be better than Tecmo Bo Jackson.

[Aikbach]

He did the same thing in college and people tried to write it off, time for those that doubt him to just accept that he's a special player.

[NIBGoldenchild]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

He's good. There's no reason to fabricate how he's getting the job done, he's getting it done.

No one is fabricating anything. Would you rather prevent the deep pass and give your defense a better shot at stopping Morris and he running, and short passes, or sell out to stop the run and get hit deep like his passes to Hankerson and Robinson? Am I fabricating that, or do I need to link the plays to those to prove my point?

Furthermore, using statistics to state how many times he's gone deep doesn't actually prove your point. It proves mine. I say defenses have been gameplanning to keep him from going deep over the middle, and you talk stats that state he hasn't been going deep.....ok. I haven't looked at the stats, but I've seen every game, they've taken less shots deep as the season has gone on. Coincidentally, Morris has found it easier to run as the season progressed as well.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by jscupa

RG3 is like top 3 in the NFL in yards per completion. To say he is dinking and dunking shows you're talking out of your ***

Did you ever hear of YAC??? Apparently not.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by NIBGoldenchild

No one is fabricating anything. Would you rather prevent the deep pass and give your defense a better shot at stopping Morris and he running, and short passes, or sell out to stop the run and get hit deep like his passes to Hankerson and Robinson? Am I fabricating that, or do I need to link the plays to those to prove my point?

You said going deep "consistently" like he was airing it out like New England 2007.

He hasn't.

Furthermore, using statistics to state how many times he's gone deep doesn't actually prove your point. It proves mine. I say defenses have been gameplanning to keep him from going deep over the middle, and you talk stats that state he hasn't been going deep.....ok. I haven't looked at the stats, but I've seen every game, they've taken less shots deep as the season has gone on. Coincidentally, Morris has found it easier to run as the season progressed as well.

On a 70% completions, if he were going deep "consistently", he'd have more plays of over 25 yards.

PFF has him down for 9 passes attempted over 20 yards. I don't know what week that is through and I'll readily admit that PFF isn't exactly the gold standard but 9 ranks 33rd in the NFL for QBs.

[perrykemp]

Originally Posted by Sarge

Did you ever hear of YAC??? Apparently not.

Is part of YAC QBs hitting their WRs in stride and putting the ball where WRs can catch it and do something with it?

[rickjameschinaclub]

If the coach is tailoring an offense to the skill-set of a player, it's called good coaching. If a coach is trying to force-fit a player into an offense, even if it doesn't make sense, then you have Jason Garrett...

[SkinsFan28]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

I honestly don't know why the discussion is focusing on his pass distance or how many yards come after the catch or whatever.

It seems like a weird angle to work.

He's getting the job done. End of story.

He looks great.

Hes passing the ball very effectively and he's running the ball very well.

They've scored 10 less points than the Patriots and they have more rushing TDs at this point than Dallas will likely have all year.

Short passes, long passes, who cares?

Maybe Garrett could learn a thing or two from Shanny.

agreed. Now if defenses do evolve to take away the shorter fields and he doesn't end up completing his long passes then the discussion could be relevant. But right now, the offense seems to be working, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Griffin is the key to that.

[rickjameschinaclub]

One should also bear in mind, Shanny's last season with the Broncos, when Cutler was lighting the world on fire and they faded at the end. Though, Cutler doesn't have half the brains it seems RG3 has, nor the legs, it's not a forgone conclusion this would happen.

What is clear though is that when things are clicking for Shanny's offense, RBs are running through holes, and the offense is scoring in bunches.

[erod]

If he stays healthy, RG3 will redefine the position.

Everyone compares him to Vick, Newton, name-your-black-QB...which is just stupid. He's nothing like those players.

Griffin is like Steve Young, except with a much stronger arm and a ton more speed. He's not a mental midget like Vick.

[Shunpike]

RG3 is good. And he will be better.

I am not a Vick fan at all and I wasn't sold on Cam Newton but RG3 has great arm and legs. If he is mentally strong, he will go long distance in this league.