Lance Armstrong stripped of all Tour De France titles & banned...

[casmith07]

Who cares?

Cancer Research > Cycling.

[jimmy40]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

That's my issue with this whole witch hunt on him and other guys like Bonds and Clemons. I don't recall Sosa among others being blown up like this.

Bonds and Clemons couldn't act like they didn't understand English.

[casmith07]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

I say get bent.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/19/us/lan...ong/index.html

Armstrong appeals to cancer supporters as some donors ask for their money back

Austin, Texas (CNN) -- For years, Connie and Daniel Roddy did all they could to support Livestrong, raising tens of thousands of dollars for the cancer charity founded by cyclist Lance Armstrong.

"It all started when Lance's first book came out," Connie Roddy said, referring to the 2001 publication of "It's Not About the Bike: My Journey Back to Life," which details Armstrong's bout with testicular cancer. "I read it cover to cover. I was just so taken by who he said he was."

[View Full Quote]The Roddys, who live in Santa Monica, California, say they initially gave $50,000 to the foundation. In 2003, Connie Roddy said, she helped organize an event for the foundation at a health club that raised an additional $150,000.

Now they want their money back.

"I feel we were really fooled. We were really hoodwinked," she said.

Yep, agreed. I'd tell them to pound sand.

Every time someone loses their battle with cancer, I'd then tell them "your donations could've saved them."

Idiots. They clearly have had nobody in their life affected by cancer.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Anybody that claims Lance Armstrong is clean is fooling themselves. The evidence is overwhelming and Armstrong originally said he wasn't going to defend himself anymore, because he thought the US cycling association would not turn in the evidence and make it known. Now, he has to step down from his 'charity'. His whole career is built on lies and everytime he was making a commerical, was in a beer commercial, was selling stuff based upon his 'clean' image, he obviously wasn't respecting his fans, let alone people in general.

He's a piece of crap and people who have actually met him, I've read, consider him a arrogant and mean guy. He left his wife for his fling Sheryl Crowe, the same wife who stood by him during cancer.

You know, maybe his doping is what caused his cancer in the first place...

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by casmith07

Yep, agreed. I'd tell them to pound sand.

Every time someone loses their battle with cancer, I'd then tell them "your donations could've saved them."

Idiots. They clearly have had nobody in their life affected by cancer.

Well, maybe they want their money back to donate to an organization who runs it is actually ethical.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

The whole upper tier of cycling is dirty. Why single one out?
Answer: because he was better at it

He was and he was running a very systematic operation, while the sport of cycling was actually trying to clean up the mess for the last few years. While they were making clear strides, Armstrong was trying to advance methods of cheating.

[jcollins28]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

He was and he was running a very systematic operation, while the sport of cycling was actually trying to clean up the mess for the last few years. While they were making clear strides, Armstrong was trying to advance methods of cheating.

One of cycling biggest races, The Tour Of California is sponsored by Amgen. Amgen is the manufacturer of a steriod called Epogen. Epogen is the most notorious performance-enhancing drug in cycling; Epogen is to professional cycling what anabolic steroids are to professional bodybuilding! Oh, and apperently the race orginizers of the Tour Of California do drug testing for every banned drug except Epogen. The whole sport is dirty. The problem with Armstrong is that not only was he the best cheater but he was a jerk about it too. Just like Bonds, Clemons and McGwire. No one likes a cheater, and people hate a cocky arrogant cheater....

[Sam I Am]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Anybody that claims Lance Armstrong is clean is fooling themselves. The evidence is overwhelming and Armstrong originally said he wasn't going to defend himself anymore, because he thought the US cycling association would not turn in the evidence and make it known. Now, he has to step down from his 'charity'. His whole career is built on lies and everytime he was making a commerical, was in a beer commercial, was selling stuff based upon his 'clean' image, he obviously wasn't respecting his fans, let alone people in general.

He's a piece of crap and people who have actually met him, I've read, consider him a arrogant and mean guy. He left his wife for his fling Sheryl Crowe, the same wife who stood by him during cancer.

You know, maybe his doping is what caused his cancer in the first place...

I'm sorry to sink your ship, but nobody has ever presented indisputable evidence of his guilt. Guilty or not, nobody has ever proved him guilty.

[Sam I Am]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

He was and he was running a very systematic operation, while the sport of cycling was actually trying to clean up the mess for the last few years. While they were making clear strides, Armstrong was trying to advance methods of cheating.

No, the entire sport is dirty and they aren't trying to clean anything up. They are hanging the best athlete the sport has ever had because he is an arrogant ****.

Don't like him? Hang him.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

He was and he was running a very systematic operation, while the sport of cycling was actually trying to clean up the mess for the last few years. While they were making clear strides, Armstrong was trying to advance methods of cheating.

trying to clean up the sport?

Wow you must own the brooklyn bridge you are so gullible

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Sam I Am

I'm sorry to sink your ship, but nobody has ever presented indisputable evidence of his guilt. Guilty or not, nobody has ever proved him guilty.

Only in your imagination, only in your imagination... Paper trails, payments, testimony from countless cyclists that raced with him, to Lance Armstrong stepping down and not fighting the case, right before they send the evidence for mass publication...

I just love how you tell us no one presented indispuatble evidence of his guilt in one post and then in the very next post tell us the whole sport is dirty... Talk about flat-out contradiction and homerism, and pretty much worship of a guy that ironically doesn't give a jack about you...

But yeah, I just love how when he originally said he was not going to fight the case anymore, he used the excsue that he was going to focus on his charity. Now, he's stepping down from the charity.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Sam I Am

No, the entire sport is dirty and they aren't trying to clean anything up. They are hanging the best athlete the sport has ever had because he is an arrogant ****.

Don't like him? Hang him.

Arrogant and a cheater, not just in cycling but with his wife...

He's a bloody cheat... The "Oh, everybody does it" doesn't cut it, just like it didn't cut it for Clemens and other cheats. If 1000 criminals don't get caught, it doesn't mean the one criminal that does get caught is any less of a cheat nor shouldn't be guilty..

The man-worship of this guy is just absurd...

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

trying to clean up the sport?

Wow you must own the brooklyn bridge you are so gullible

Sorry, but when your trying to clean up the sport, you take aim at the guy who won seven world tours. McQuaid has acknowledged, since he's come on board, that cycling has had a doping problem. That was in 2005, 7 years ago.

They have been collecting a case against Lance and being very systematic about it for a long time.

That is what you do, when you want to send a message, even when that winner made a lot for 'cancer' research.

If Lance, the mighty 'god' of cycling is untouchable, the guy that brought the sport to the general public is touchable, than every other doper is touchable... Now on to tennis and the likes of Djokovic and his 'gluten-free' diet....

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Where's the proof? You have a bunch of cyclist accuse him who are dirty themselves. You have no positive drug tests from any governing body.

Just because a dirty sport, dominated by Europeans says he cheated doesn't mean it's right to do any of this without proof.

That's not how it works.

The evidence in the withhunt was pretty compelling and he did choose not to fight anymore. In the end though, I hate all the stoolies and rats who sold their souls to rat him out. They were nobodies without him and will only be remembered because of him.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan

The evidence in the withhunt was pretty compelling and he did choose not to fight anymore. In the end though, I hate all the stoolies and rats who sold their souls to rat him out. They were nobodies without him and will only be remembered because of him.

Be honest with you Canadian, if I had to guess, I'd say he probably was because you can't win if you are at such a disadvantage with every European team out there. As I said before, you may have a guy that is just so genetically superior that he can do it without the aid of any banned substances but it does not reason that you can have an entire team that is that good. In order to win a TDF, you have to have a very good, very strong team so yeah, he probably was. The problem I have with this is that he was not the only one and he was never caught cheating. No test ever showed positive. Now, was he just better or was he using something that can't be tested for or did the organization doing the testing just elect not to test for those substances. Any of those can be a reason for never being caught but it all comes back to the same thing. The Sport never wanted to clean up their own mess. They still don't. All that will happen here is that they will measures to bring down one man and they will go on riding dirty just as they have for the last 40 or 50 years.

It's not right. At the end of the day, they never caught him using, be it because they looked the other way or he was just better. They never caught him and it's their own rules that say you have to test positive.

That's just how I see it. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I see. It's not right.