Do you think Witten makes the HoF? - Page 5 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Chocolate Lab · 10-29-2012

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Didn't think so.

Just one more chance to bash the team and when called on it... ~crickets~

Just saw this.

I never in any way "bashed" Witten. I hope he makes it. But as we've seen, Cowboys have to be extra exceptional to make the HOF, and many voters look for any reason t keep them out.

I don't do lame internet macho wagers. You should stick to novels about Garrett's wondrous qualities that only you see.

dexternjack · 10-29-2012

Witten gets in first ballot and he is not finished putting up stats too.

Prossman · 10-29-2012

Without a doubt he is a sure fire 1st ballot hall of famer. The guy has the stats, is the consumate pro and carries massive respect around the league. he should be in the ring of honor also.

Chuck 54 · 10-29-2012

Maybe...TEs don't populate the HOF.

Gonzalez is a no brainer. Witten should get in, but he won't be on first ballot, and like all positions in the NFL, without a title, by the time his five years are up, how many TEs will have similar or better numbers + titles (guys like Gronk and the kid in NO).

It's unfair, but that's the history of the NFL.

spolcyc · 10-29-2012

He deserves to be a first ballot. He's one hell of a player. Doesn't dazzle you with anything (except his hands) isn't amazingly athletic or fast, just a smart player who knows how to get open and takes care of business when the ball is thrown his way. Not many like him in the NFL.

KB1122 · 10-29-2012

Here's the thing about this: He is very justifiable, but how many Cowboys will make it from a team that hasn't competed for a championship? The 80s teams had more success, but no one from those teams (without being left over from the seventies) is in the Hall of Fame.

So the question is, would they really put in both Ware and Witten? Or does only one get in? I would think Ware would have the advantage.

joseephuss · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Chuck 54

Maybe...TEs don't populate the HOF.

Gonzalez is a no brainer. Witten should get in, but he won't be on first ballot, and like all positions in the NFL, without a title, by the time his five years are up, how many TEs will have similar or better numbers + titles (guys like Gronk and the kid in NO).

It's unfair, but that's the history of the NFL.

I don't think Gronk or Graham will have better numbers than Witten by the time Witten is eligible for the HoF. Witten has played 7 more years than either of those guys. That is a lot of years to make up. If Witten retired at the end of this season, I don't think either guy would surpass Witten's career totals over the next 5 years. As bad as the Saints defense is I don't see them winning a Superbowl any time soon, so I won't assume that Graham is going to have any titles.

Hostile · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Just saw this.

I never in any way "bashed" Witten. I hope he makes it. But as we've seen, Cowboys have to be extra exceptional to make the HOF, and many voters look for any reason t keep them out.

I don't do lame internet macho wagers. You should stick to novels about Garrett's wondrous qualities that only you see.

Yeah, except I'm not alone in seeing them. His team, coaches, and other teams see them.

**Idgit** · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Hostile

Yeah, except I'm not alone in seeing them. His team, coaches, and other teams see them.

You're not alone on CZ, either. I'm a big Garrett fan still, and I'm puzzled as to why he's the scapegoat for last week, too.

pacy · 10-30-2012

Without a doubt...

tyke1doe · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by joseephuss

I agree. I honestly think this will be Gonzales' last year. In 5 years, he will go into the HoF and Witten will probably be on the verge of retiring at that time.

If the Falcons win the Super Bowl, I say it's definitely his last year. But if they fall short, I think he'll want to play a few more years, assuming that the Falcons may be a year or two away from the Big Dance.

Gonzales is hanging on because he's never won a playoff game (I don't know if he's even played in one) and wants to desperately play in a Super Bowl.

phildominator · 10-30-2012

Witten won't make the HOF. TE is a position that doesn't get a lot of HOF love. Unfortunately, Witten is a throwback TE, not the "air-it-out next gen" type that the NFL loves these days.

Hell, Witten didn't even play basketball.

More importantly, Witten should be in the Ring of Honor.

aikemirv · 10-30-2012

Yes, he will!

DFWJC · 10-30-2012

He's a lock

So is Gonzalas.

joseephuss · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by phildominator

Witten won't make the HOF. TE is a position that doesn't get a lot of HOF love. Unfortunately, Witten is a throwback TE, not the "air-it-out next gen" type that the NFL loves these days.

Hell, Witten didn't even play basketball.

More importantly, Witten should be in the Ring of Honor.

Even some of the "air-it-out next gen" types don't put up the numbers that Witten does. Take Jermichael Finley for example. He is never asked to block and his best two seasons he produced 55 receptions in each. He only has 28 receptions so far this season. Witten easily out produces him.

Gronkowski and Graham are off to great starts to their careers, but is way too early to start extrapolating out how well they will produce the next 10 years. The same goes with trying to figure out if Witten will ever catch Tony Gonzales. Witten has to make up 6 seasons on Gonzales if Tony ever does retire. Gronk and Graham have to make up 7 years on Witten.