*** Official Fire/Hate Garrett Thread ***

[Doc50]

Originally Posted by Seven

Not even close.

Something he wants so badly and will never have. He can't buy it either........try as he may.

Something he owns, and we don't - no badly how badly we want it, we'll never have it.

If you think the Cowboy's look, roster, style of play, marquis players, cheerleaders, stadium, art collection, lingerie store, and souvenirs aren't directly influenced by Mr. "socks-to-jocks" Jones, then you haven't been paying attention.

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan

please tell me you aren't comparing Garrett to those legends

no but before they became legend they failed. Dean Smith was burned in effigy and Bryant was almost run out of town at Texas AM. I just saying what others have said and Hos said it the best "Patience will be rewarded and impatience disregard" Give it some time. I think Garrett will become a very good coach and win some Super Bowls. This reminds of a sign that was posted on Interstate 93 in Boston when the Big Dig was going on. The sign said "Rome wasn't built in a day. If it was we would have hired their contractors."

[Omegasupreme]

The question of resume is what fuels most of this argument against Garrett. What did he show in any accomplishment to warrant moving from a QB coach with Miami to an assistant HC and OC? Then what was securely accomplished in his tenure as OC (I.E. Not just 2007) to make him a quality candidate for HC. The problems with the short yardage game and red zone were never fixed and yet he was handed the HC job as a smart HC capable of...? I don't know, because his resume is still a mystery. Maybe he was actually born in Kenya and his birth certificate says Hawaii.
I have not seen a single strong HC move by him. Just a lot of talk and questionable management.
So why what had he done to get any of his jobs and what has he done to warrant keeping him?

[nalam]

Quote - from " Coaches who need to be fired "

8. With 83 seconds to play, the ball on the Giants' 28 and three timeouts in its pocket, Dallas faced second-and-1 and somehow never ran the ball once to get a new set of downs.

Cowboys coach Jason Garrett had QB Tony Romo throw the ball three straight times. Two fell incomplete, the last was picked off.

You have to run the ball on third down. I don’t care if they know it’s coming. I don’t care that Felix Jones is unreliable and already had a critical fumble. Tony Boo Boo is unreliable, too. Tony Boo Boo threw four interceptions on Sunday.

Jason Garrett is an idiot.

Looks like we are not the only one who think that 1 play out of three have been a run , QB sneak or some other effort to get that one yard

[jobberone]

Before the game many here predicted not only a loss but a big one. Many thought Dallas had no chance.

I'll bet you all the money you have that Tom Coughlin and more than a few of his players don't want to face Dallas again this year.

They proved they belong on the same field as NY. It's still a loss but there are positives to take away from that game.

[dexternjack]

Originally Posted by jobberone

Before the game many here predicted not only a loss but a big one. Many thought Dallas had no chance.

I'll bet you all the money you have that Tom Coughlin and more than a few of his players don't want to face Dallas again this year.

They proved they belong on the same field as NY. It's still a loss but there are positives to take away from that game.

Almost every week this Cowboys team proves they belong on the field though. And yet, almost every week some players and coaches make head-scratching decisions that take away from the team belonging on the field.

There are positives and negatives to take away from each game, but the negatives outweigh the positives. Until that changes, we will continue to see the roller-coaster play.

There is/are a fundamental problem(s) in this team that need to be addressed now but I am not so sure the coaches know how to fix them.

[rickjameschinaclub]

If Jason Garrett blew your money half as many times as he blew games, none of you would be talking about how one should be 'patient' with him.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Omegasupreme

The question of resume is what fuels most of this argument against Garrett. What did he show in any accomplishment to warrant moving from a QB coach with Miami to an assistant HC and OC? Then what was securely accomplished in his tenure as OC (I.E. Not just 2007) to make him a quality candidate for HC. The problems with the short yardage game and red zone were never fixed and yet he was handed the HC job as a smart HC capable of...? I don't know, because his resume is still a mystery. Maybe he was actually born in Kenya and his birth certificate says Hawaii.
I have not seen a single strong HC move by him. Just a lot of talk and questionable management.
So why what had he done to get any of his jobs and what has he done to warrant keeping him?

Nepotism is how he got where he got, plain and simple...

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

If Jason Garrett blew your money half as many times as he blew games, none of you would be talking about how one should be 'patient' with him.

Sorry but when it comes to hiring a HC I would give any of them the same time to do the job. Garrett is in his 2nd full season as HC I would not hire any coach and give him less than 3. After year 3 if I don't like where things are going then I would look to someone else but this notion of hiring and firing at the drop of the hat is not something I buy into.

[rcaldw]

Most of the people on here assumed that Romo is not the problem and then start their reasoning from that point forward. This season you are just plain wrong. Matt Schaub was mentioned earlier. Does Schaub have the talent Romo has? For the most part, no. Has Schaub played better this season? Without question, yes.

The one thing most of your are too darn stubborn to recognize is this.

YOU CAN'T WIN TURNING THE BALL OVER.

Period.

Can't do it.

I don't give a flip if you throw for 400 yards, when you throw multiple picks you lose. Any exception to this will only prove to confirm the rule.

[rcaldw]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

Sorry but when it comes to hiring a HC I would give any of them the same time to do the job. Garrett is in his 2nd full season as HC I would not hire any coach and give him less than 3. After year 3 if I don't like where things are going then I would look to someone else but this notion of hiring and firing at the drop of the hat is not something I buy into.

Nor should you. It is insane.

[dexternjack]

Sorry but when it comes to hiring a HC I would give any of them the same time to do the job. Garrett is in his 2nd full season as HC I would not hire any coach and give him less than 3. After year 3 if I don't like where things are going then I would look to someone else but this notion of hiring and firing at the drop of the hat is not something I buy into.


This is true, but that is a case if improvement is happening IMO. Do you see any on-field improvement except from the defense?

Not talking about drafting, FA acquisitions or the like. So far, it is still a process that is not processing on the field.

[rickjameschinaclub]

If Jason Garrett blew even more money than the predecessor in a shorter amount of time, you would not wait around 3 years for him to 'right the ship' with your money... If you did, you'd be worse than Jerry Jones as a GM

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

Sorry but when it comes to hiring a HC I would give any of them the same time to do the job. Garrett is in his 2nd full season as HC I would not hire any coach and give him less than 3. After year 3 if I don't like where things are going then I would look to someone else but this notion of hiring and firing at the drop of the hat is not something I buy into.

I don't agree with this logic. He has been here for 6 years. We know what we have and we are not improving. What are you waiting for?

Most good coaches with our talent would already be in position. He is going backwards.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by rcaldw

Most of the people on here assumed that Romo is not the problem and then start their reasoning from that point forward. This season you are just plain wrong. Matt Schaub was mentioned earlier. Does Schaub have the talent Romo has? For the most part, no. Has Schaub played better this season? Without question, yes.

The one thing most of your are too darn stubborn to recognize is this.

YOU CAN'T WIN TURNING THE BALL OVER.

Period.

Can't do it.

I don't give a flip if you throw for 400 yards, when you throw multiple picks you lose. Any exception to this will only prove to confirm the rule.

Having a league leading rushing game helps. Last season Houston was the 2nd best rushing team in the league. Foster is a big part of that offense while Passing Houston ranked 18th. I don't blame Houston if we could run the ball like that I would not care if we were a top 10 passing team or not.