It seems TO was not the problem in Dallas

[Stinger_Splash]

Romo and Garrett are the problems.

[Frozen700]

Originally Posted by Stinger_Splash

Romo and Garrett are the problems.

You forgot Jerry....

Romo, Garret, and Jerry.....America's Most Wanted

[Parche]

Isnt 2012 already?

[KB1122]

IF by problem we mean 250 catches and like 3,500 yards in 3 years, then yes, he was a problem.

But a lot of fans would rather have Laurent Robinson's 50 catches and 900+ yards.

[KB1122]

Originally Posted by dmq

I would have loved TO's time here so much more if he hadn't have dropped so many key passes.

Drops:TO::Tacklingeion.

When people say "Deion couldn't tackle" what they're really saying is, "I don't like Deion's personality."

Same thing with TO.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by KB1122

Drops:TO::Tacklingeion.

When people say "Deion couldn't tackle" what they're really saying is, "I don't like Deion's personality."

Same thing with TO.

Oh really? I don't like TO's personality and usually I convey that opinion by saying "I don't like TO's personality."

[alsmith]

Some people will never understand just how much of a PROBLEM T.O. really was to this team, how he split the team and how he was a bad influence on the younger players... GLAD HE IS GONE...

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Some people will never understand just how much of a PROBLEM T.O. really was to this team, how he split the team and how he was a bad influence on the younger players... GLAD HE IS GONE...

Something Ive always been morbidly curious about...

the assertion that he was public enemy #1 has been stated as if there was obvious concrete evidence that no one could refute.

Im not oblivious that Im sure there were some words, but how did it escalate to him being the sole reason for implosion?. It always smelled of scapegoat to me.

The reason the 2008 season went down the tubes was
-Az blocking a punt in OT, breaking McBriars foot and putting tony romo out 2 games
- Garrett's picking of Brad Johnson when it was obvious he couldnt even through a 10yd lateral screen in preseason
- Tony's pick in Pittsburg
-2 80yd runs by baltimore in the 4th qtr.
- 44-6 debacle

I don't see how TO had more than a 5% hand in that sh--show

i would love for someone in the know to PM and give me some more specifics, but many locker rooms have had disfunctional relationships and still succeeded.

It seemed to be the beginning of excuses and scapegoating that continues to plaque the team

[cannonball44]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

One day fans will move on from T.O.

For a guy who was only here for about 5 mins, he sure put a hold on some of the fans.

I still got my popcorn, to be honest.

[DavidAK]

T.O is the best WR we've had since Irvin. His locker room drama was blown out of proportion by the media and fans. I don't remember Owens throwing antics when we were winning, it was only when we were losing that he whined about not getting the ball, or how he used to say " there were some opportunities for him that we didn't take advantage of". I don't remember anything that bad, nothing that would divide a team and burn it to the ground.

That was the media over blowing things for ratings and drama, and fans using him a scapegoat for the failures of the team.

Like they say- "Haters gonna hate"

[big dog cowboy]

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Some people will never understand just how much of a PROBLEM T.O. really was to this team, how he split the team and how he was a bad influence on the younger players... GLAD HE IS GONE...

The Cowboys went to the playoffs 2 of the 3 seasons TO was in Dallas. The team never won fewer than 9 games when TO was here. I didn't see any problem with the Cowboys in 07 when they went 13-3 winning the NFC East and securing the #! seed. The best team the Cowboys had since their championship teams of the 90's had TO on it. He was a big part of why that team was so good. After the disappointing end to that season expectations were sky high for the Cowboys the following season.

Everyone expected the team to be on a mission and many were already putting the Cowboys in the SB at the start of training camp. Even cream puff Wade made a joke about going to the SB prior to the 08 season. It was clear the team got fat and happy reading their press clippings and like in 07 they faded in Dec. Everyone put the blame on TO after Ed Werder's story came out following the collapse in Pittsburgh. It was reported TO and Witten got into a fight and both denied it.

TO called Werder a liar and the entire episode caused a distraction all because of the reputation TO brought to Dallas. He came to the Cowboys a marked man after what happened in Philly but as long as the team was winning everything was fine. Everyone was so disappointed by the Dec swoon in 08 which caused the Cowboys to miss the playoffs that everyone was convinced the problem had to be TO. I'm no TO supporter I never liked him as a person but from everything I saw from him on camera while he was in Dallas he appeared to make a real effort to get along.

He was very careful what he said in interviews because he knew the press would try and twist his comments. They tried baiting him into saying things and he would have none of it. Love him or hate him the guy produced big with the Cowboys. He put up double digit TD's the 3 seasons he was in Dallas. Michael Irvin only had one double digit TD season in his 12 year HOF career with the Cowboys.

TO put up yards, catches and TD's. The 07 team may have had the most explosive offense in franchise history for 12 weeks of that season and TO was a big reason why. Even Troy Aikman said none of the Cowboys championship teams of the 90's had as explosive an offense as the 07 team. That was a team that became complacent after beating the 10-1 Packers.

The Cowboys are a team that's had trouble for several years handling adversity and success. It's all been due to the weak, powerless head coaches the team has had. The Cowboys have had the talent since 07 to win a championship but they've lacked the focus, discipline and the coaching to get it done. None of those issues were due to TO it's all been due to Jerry's hires at head coach. We're seeing the same issues now that we saw when TO was here....nuff said!

[Clove]

Originally Posted by KJJ

The Cowboys went to the playoffs 2 of the 3 seasons TO was in Dallas. The team never won fewer than 9 games when TO was here. I didn't see any problem with the Cowboys in 07 when they went 13-3 winning the NFC East and securing the #! seed. The best team the Cowboys had since their championship teams of the 90's had TO on it. He was a big part of why that team was so good. After the disappointing end to that season expectations were sky high for the Cowboys the following season.

Everyone expected the team to be on a mission and many were already putting the Cowboys in the SB at the start of training camp. Even cream puff Wade made a joke about going to the SB prior to the 08 season. It was clear the team got fat and happy reading their press clippings and like in 07 they faded in Dec. Everyone put the blame on TO after Ed Werder's story came out following the collapse in Pittsburgh. It was reported TO and Witten got into a fight and both denied it.

[View Full Quote]TO called Werder a liar and the entire episode caused a distraction all because of the reputation TO brought to Dallas. He came to the Cowboys a marked man after what happened in Philly but as long as the team was winning everything was fine. Everyone was so disappointed by the Dec swoon in 08 which caused the Cowboys to miss the playoffs that everyone was convinced the problem had to be TO. I'm no TO supporter I never liked him as a person but from everything I saw from him on camera while he was in Dallas he appeared to make a real effort to get along.

He was very careful what he said in interviews because he knew the press would try and twist his comments. They tried baiting him into saying things and he would have none of it. Love him or hate him the guy produced big with the Cowboys. He put up double digit TD's the 3 seasons he was in Dallas. Michael Irvin only had one double digit TD season in his 12 year HOF career with the Cowboys.

TO put up yards, catches and TD's. The 07 team may have had the most explosive offense in franchise history for 12 weeks of that season and TO was a big reason why. Even Troy Aikman said none of the Cowboys championship teams of the 90's had as explosive an offense as the 07 team. That was a team that became complacent after beating the 10-1 Packers.

The Cowboys are a team that's had trouble for several years handling adversity and success. It's all been due to the weak, powerless head coaches the team has had. The Cowboys have had the talent since 07 to win a championship but they've lacked the focus, discipline and the coaching to get it done. None of those issues were due to TO it's all been due to Jerry's hires at head coach. We're seeing the same issues now that we saw when TO was here....nuff said!

[jayhouston12]

TO was never the problem in Dallas.....people said "oh he whines too much" no TO had something these cowboys don't have "The will to win" say whatever you want about TO he would get in someone's face and not let this team hang their head just because they were down....TO had that fightback and i just wish he was still on our team age and all...

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by alsmith

Some people will never understand just how much of a PROBLEM T.O. really was to this team, how he split the team and how he was a bad influence on the younger players... GLAD HE IS GONE...

were you in that locker room? the influence he had was always over exaggerated by a media that was heavily invested in seeing drama in that locker room.