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Old 10-30-2012   #31
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I've said before Romo is not the problem on this team..

It's always some one that can not do their job,

Game won if RB Jones carries and protects the ball right, you have the lead bonehead,

Dez, knows where he is on the field and what is going on, if he sets his *** down after the catch in the endzone,

Garrett, he called a good game, that is not the problem, execution and keeping your head in the game, knowing where and what is going on the field, that is the problem.
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Old 10-30-2012   #32
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The O-Line is not the same that made Romo Elite... Im pretty sure that no one on that O-Line can make anyone look elite...
The thing is, if you're elite, you play well and win despite the shortcomings of your team. See Aaron Rodgers. So by definition if Romo is always henpecked by the shortcomings of the players around him, then he is by definition not elite.
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Old 10-31-2012   #33
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Lots of blame being thrown around here.

I get it, it's a deflection thread.

The right answer is the defense.
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Old 10-31-2012   #34
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I've said for years now that Romo was wasting his time here in Dallas. If he had a better team, better wide outs, better defense, better this and better that. It's always something else that was keeping us fom getting over the hump.

I don't know anymore..Maybe he's not as good as I thought.
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Old 10-31-2012   #35
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It just seems like people in general have a tendency and desire to place the majority of the blame on a single person when things are going poorly. We have to have a scapegoat, right? And it works even better if it suits their agenda (queue the Romo hate threads and Garrett hate threads).
So several years ago, they blamed everything on Owens. Followed by Roy Williams, followed by Roy Williams, followed by Flozell, followed by Wade, followed by Newman. But now it's not okay to blame Romo since he's been here longer than anyone?

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Old 10-31-2012   #36
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Lots of blame being thrown around here.

I get it, it's a deflection thread.

The right answer is the defense.
Speaking of defense, how about yalls defense? They absolutely STINK and your secondary has to be the worst in the league and it ain't even close. I think you should be on your own board talking about that. They're outright AWFUL!!!!! Just sayin!!!!!
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If you sat Romo on the bench and put in Orton you will find out that the offense ran badly because of Romo and not that Romo is making it look good.

The wide receivers have to over compensate for Romo bad accuracy. They have to be in precise spots for romo to get them the ball because thats the only way he can throw it to them.
Orton can throw well without preset passes.
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So several years ago, they blamed everything on Owens. Followed by Roy Williams, followed by Roy Williams, followed by Flozell, followed by Wade, followed by Newman. But now it's not okay to blame Romo since he's been here longer than anyone?

Gotcha!
Give it up, my man. It's a losing battle. I came to that conclusion a while back. Romo is above the team and above blame. If you criticize him, then "you don't know football". Honestly, I have never seen so many excuses for a Dallas QB. He almost has as many excuses as he has interceptions and boneheaded decisions.
Life is like being a Cowboys fan. You never know what ya gonna get.

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Old 10-31-2012   #39
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The OP "gets it". Anyone who does not know how stressful it is to throw 62 times has NEVER played this game. I mean we had 3 downs to make 1 yard....and threw the ball 3 straight times!!!!!!!!!!!!! Romo can NEVER breathe a sigh of relief and let someone else make a play. Heck on the goaline HE himself had to get the yard on 4th down...after the OL and RB getting stuffed a couple of times. If Romo WAITED for his WRs to get open...he would be sacked OFTEN. So he lets the ball go HOPING the WR gets to the spot. And the WR does not get there. What is he supposed to do. Eli throws the ball up all the time and lets his WR make a play...either my guy gets it...or no one gets it. That is football 101. Romo cannot even trust for that to happen. So he has no run game. He has a porous OL that allows pressure with a 3 man rush. He has an average play caller (in JGs defense, calling plays is much harder when you cannot rely on calling simple run plays) He has inexpereinced WRs (Dez and Ogletree). He has one RELIABLE receving threat (WItten)...and that means moving the ball in 8 yard chunks....and with no running game...that means 12+ play drives....which means he will have to make a throw 8 times on a drive...and on 12+ play drives we usually mix in a penalty...which puts us in bad down and distances..which amps the pressure up even more on Romo...which allows the DL to pin their ears back...which means he is trying to get the protections set....before he throws to WRs who are not where they are supposed to be...and doing this while running for his life the whole time........like I said...some of you simple do NOT get it!!!!

Is he top 5? No! But I would love to see the so called top 5 QBs in the NFL do any better under these conditions I just laid out.
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The thing is, if you're elite, you play well and win despite the shortcomings of your team. See Aaron Rodgers. So by definition if Romo is always henpecked by the shortcomings of the players around him, then he is by definition not elite.
The Packers beyond all else have provided Rodgers lots of targets to throw the ball too -- WRs, TEs, etc. Beyond that, yes, they've fielded a truly awful offensive line and RBs.

I'd argue the Cowboy don't have a single phase of the offensive that doesn't have significant problems -- there are OL issues, the well documented WR issues with Dez, lack of depth, etc, and a RB1 that can't be relied on to be healthy.

In other words, unlike the Packers who have at least one piece of their offense still playing well in the WR corp that they can rely on, the Cowboys have none -- and that's the major difference why Rodgers can continue to put up big numbers and Romo has not. There isn't a single part of the offense the Cowboys can hang their hat on -- it's ALL dysfunctional.
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The thing is, if you're elite, you play well and win despite the shortcomings of your team. See Aaron Rodgers. So by definition if Romo is always henpecked by the shortcomings of the players around him, then he is by definition not elite.
Perfectly stated. The guy is playing like dog-poop. Let's just hope he can turn it around.
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If Romo was a deep threat, we'd have a running game. If he was accurate we'd have won the last game.
By the end of 2014 Romo will not be starting for the cowboys and the most popular phrase on the board will be..."see I knew we shouldn't have signed him to that big contract".
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So several years ago, they blamed everything on Owens. Followed by Roy Williams, followed by Roy Williams, followed by Flozell, followed by Wade, followed by Newman. But now it's not okay to blame Romo since he's been here longer than anyone?

Gotcha!
You're missing my point. It's not okay to blame any individual person (whether it be Romo, or TO, or any of the others you mentioned). The organization consists of many players on the field, many coaches, and many individuals in the front office. They all contribute to the wins, and they all contribute to the losses (some obviously more than others). There's plenty of blame to go around for this 3-4 start, and that blame should rightfully go to more people than just Romo alone. Or even Garrett alone.
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I agree.

Imagine Tony Romo playing for the Niners last year. They would have won the SB.
Garrett to players: Make today a great day; go about the business of winning! If you can't keep up then don't step up.
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If Romo was a deep threat, we'd have a running game. If he was accurate we'd have won the last game.
I am not defending Romo, but he doesn't have the protection to go deep often and there is no running game due to poor blocking. It is unfair to place the blame on him for either.
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