For what it's worth: Could the Bucs make a trade for Cowboys’ Jenkins? - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Gaede · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

Ask yourself the same question when Carr gets run over and Claiborne decides to go into fashion design and retires next week. How valuable will he be?

Do we really need to hold on to a 4th corner for insurance? Is this team that stacked that we don't need additional draft picks?

Zimmy Lives · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Do we really need to hold on to a 4th corner for insurance? Is this team that stacked that we don't need additional draft picks?

That is the key question, isn't it? Is a 4th round pick valuable enough today for a player who has proven starter ability and can help this team now?

Zimmy Lives · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jnday

I guess it depends on what your expectations for the season are. I don't see a Super Bowl in the future and anything else is a failure. Jenkins is not going to make a difference to that extent. He is not going to lift the team to a six or seven game winning streak. Jenkins being an insurance policy is not worth getting nothing in return.

He will bring a compensatory pick. That is worth something.

I like playing the odds. I think he has a better chance of playing and helping this season than a 4th round pick does of making the team and contributing next year. Make that a 2nd round pick, though, and I like those odds a little more.

jblaze2004 · 10-31-2012

How many plays did Jenkins play vs the giants? I barely saw him. And with Carr n Claiborne playing outside and scandrck manning the slot when did Jenkins really play?

jnday · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Zimmy Lives

He will bring a compensatory pick. That is worth something.

I like playing the odds. I think he has a better chance of playing and helping this season than a 4th round pick does of making the team and contributing next year. Make that a 2nd round pick, though, and I like those odds a little more.

There is a very good chance that Jenkins won't bring a comp pick. I am sure that Dallas will sign a free agent or two and the pick won't be awarded. If he is the reason for an extra win in a bad season will it really make much difference? The biggest reason that I want the picks is it will least offer something in return instead of getting nothing back on the investment. If Felix and Jenkins were both traded, those picks could always be used to move up and get a higher pick. If the comp pick was a sure thing, I wouldn't trade him for a 4th, but it a very slim chance, so I would rather take the trade. I have little hope for the season. 8-8 is not much better than 6-10. Both are failures.

jnday · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jblaze2004

How many plays did Jenkins play vs the giants? I barely saw him. And with Carr n Claiborne playing outside and scandrck manning the slot when did Jenkins really play?

I.don't know about the Giants, but he played one play in the previous game IIRC.

**Idgit** · 10-31-2012

Why does this keep coming up? We're getting a comp pick for the guy that'll be in the same neighborhood of anything we'd get in a trade (though a year later), and we need the guy. Our secondary has been a shining beacon in this dismal start to a season; why would we try to dismantle it now?

jnday · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Why does this keep coming up? We're getting a comp pick for the guy that'll be in the same neighborhood of anything we'd get in a trade (though a year later), and we need the guy. Our secondary has been a shining beacon in this dismal start to a season; why would we try to dismantle it now?

Why do you assume we will get a comp pick? It is not that simple. Actually chances are slim for getting the pick under the guidelines.

**Idgit** · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jnday

Why do you assume we will get a comp pick? It is not that simple. Actually chances are slim for getting the pick under the guidelines.

Because Jenkins is a starting-quality player and I'm fairly sure he's going to get a substantial contract in a league obsessed with passing defense.

Regardless, I still wouldn't rob the secondary of a quality player mid-season in order to get a mid-round pick.

Nexx · 10-31-2012

Jenkins is so much more valuable to this team than a 4th rounder. End of discussion. Throw a 3rd and 5th out there I might consider it.

Gaede · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

Because Jenkins is a starting-quality player and I'm fairly sure he's going to get a substantial contract in a league obsessed with passing defense.
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My problem with that is there's no guarantee. He could get injured or go to jail or retire and never play again, or we could go ahead and sign a ton of big free agents-nullifying any comp pick we would get.

I think if someone offers you a good deal, you take the sure thing

CATCH17 · 10-31-2012

On a side not... How about Scandrick this year? Not bad so far.

**Idgit** · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

My problem with that is there's no guarantee. He could get injured or go to jail or retire and never play again, or we could go ahead and sign a ton of big free agents-nullifying any comp pick we would get.

I think if someone offers you a good deal, you take the sure thing

Unless, of course, you're still expecting to win this season. I suspect we might be on different sides of that question at this point.

xwalker · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jblaze2004

How many plays did Jenkins play vs the giants? I barely saw him. And with Carr n Claiborne playing outside and scandrck manning the slot when did Jenkins really play?

Jenkins played 26 of 60 snaps against the Giants.

Jenkins + a 6th for their 2nd

rocyaice · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by jnday

I guess it depends on what your expectations for the season are. I don't see a Super Bowl in the future and anything else is a failure. Jenkins is not going to make a difference to that extent. He is not going to lift the team to a six or seven game winning streak. Jenkins being an insurance policy is not worth getting nothing in return.

Well you're not really thinking realistic though. The season isn't over. The odds are against us yea but all of these teams separate each other from 1, 2 or 3 games. Its HARDLY over. Now I know no one wants to be hurt and its easier to be a debbie downer but in reality the Cowboys aren't out of it and if they felt this team was a playoff team going into this season then they should feel that way now. If they win their games they are in. Jenkins gives us a better chance to win now.