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bbailey423 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

name a few of those MANY categories

only need to name one....LEADERSHIP....Irvin was THE soul of those teams...if you don't recognize that...it's because we have not seen that around here in over 15 years. Fans that defend the slop we are fed season after season are just as comical as the person running this circus act in Dallas.

Rack Bauer · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by AbeBeta

How can you compare Witten and Irvin?

Witten is a classic TE who catches and blocks.

Irvin was the prototypical possession receiver.

Very different positions

Too much common sense going on with this post, you've obviously never been in the army.

**WoodysGirl** · 10-31-2012

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota
Stephen Jones: Doug Free is getting better. "Hes been moved around a lot. Hes learning under a new coach. I think hes going to be all right"

Will the Cowboys be active at the trade deadline? Cowboys executive VP Stephen Jones: "I don't think so."

Calvin Watkins ‏@calvinwatkins
No DeMarco Murray misses practice. Chillin with his adidas

Dez Bryant with his sore hip is also missing in action.

Jason Hatcher is out too, has a leg contusion.

Todd Archer ‏@toddarcher
No DeMarco Murray, Dez Bryant or Jason Hatcher at practice.

Dan Connor not practicing either with the stinger.

Sean Lissemore, Phil Costa and Matt Johnson not practicing. Scratch them for Sunday already

Jason Witten has a sleeve on left leg but practicing.

Cowboys in shoulder pads and shorts for practice

WV Cowboy · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Dallas

I can argue Witt is just as good and even better than Irvin and will be for some time to come.

But he is correct in that Witten doesnt...

Do Drugs
Go to Jail
Bang around on his wife

True...Witt def ain't no Michael Irvin.

Thank you.

rocboy22 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by bbailey423

only need to name one....LEADERSHIP....Irvin was THE soul of those teams...if you don't recognize that...it's because we have not seen that around here in over 15 years. Fans that defend the slop we are fed season after season are just as comical as the person running this circus act in Dallas.

why do you only need to name one? you claimed there were MANY, so I asked you to name just a few.

I love Irvin. I know he was the soul of those teams. However, I have seen nothing from Witten that would make me believe he is not an outstanding leader. And, again, none of this actually has anything to do with the question that I asked.

xwalker · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by bbailey423

only need to name one....LEADERSHIP....Irvin was THE soul of those teams...if you don't recognize that...it's because we have not seen that around here in over 15 years. Fans that defend the slop we are fed season after season are just as comical as the person running this circus act in Dallas.

Yep, Witten is a great leader by example, but Irvin was an all-time-great emotional-leader of a Cowboys team or any team for that matter.

rickjameschinaclub · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

name a few of those MANY categories

How about catching TDs when it counted...

**WoodysGirl** · 10-31-2012

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota
Stephen Jones is pleased with the play of DeMarco Murray in his second season. Jones: "His only issue so far has just been staying healthy."

AbeBeta · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota
Stephen Jones: Doug Free is getting better. "Hes been moved around a lot. Hes learning under a new coach. I think hes going to be all right"

Free mostly did a good job on Sunday against Osi

Fletch · 10-31-2012

Will Murray be active?

rocyaice · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by bbailey423

only need to name one....LEADERSHIP....Irvin was THE soul of those teams...if you don't recognize that...it's because we have not seen that around here in over 15 years. Fans that defend the slop we are fed season after season are just as comical as the person running this circus act in Dallas.

Irvin also played on a SUPERIOR team. Let's don't kid ourselves here. You are giving Witten too much for our lack of success and you're doing the same for Irvin's success.

kirkjrk · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by ufcrules1

"Jason Garrett on Tony Romo: "I have a lot of confidence in him. The team has a lot of confidence in him."

LIES!

The fans,media,sports analyst don't have confidence in him.

bbailey423 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

why do you only need to name one? you claimed there were MANY, so I asked you to name just a few.

I love Irvin. I know he was the soul of those teams. However, I have seen nothing from Witten that would make me believe he is not an outstanding leader. And, again, none of this actually has anything to do with the question that I asked.

Because there are so many facets that are the residual effects of LEADERSHIP. And there is no need for me to name all of them. Both Witten and Ware are "stat sheet stuffers". That crap Marty B pulled while he was in Dallas...would NEVER have happened in a lockeroom with Irvin, Emmit, Haley, Aikman etc...and I bring him up because he plays the same position as Witten...so they were in the meeting room together every day. What impact did Witten have on Bennett? Or was he more concerned about not losing playing time to stuff the stat sheets and pave the way for an induction into the Ring of Honor and maybe the HOF?

See....I for one cannot understand ANY threads on this board that start with is" ______ going to the HOF"?

Hello....you play to win the game. And I don't care how many catches you have...sacks you have...TDs you throw....this is a .500 outfit..and all of these so called great players on this team...or great lead by example players in this lockeroom don't move my needle...because NONE of it has amounted to winning. And so I question what some of these so-called great players on this team are in it for.

rocyaice · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by kirkjrk

The fans,media,sports analyst don't have confidence in him.

Let's thank goodness they don't go out there and play on Sunday. But do the Falcons respect him? Let's see if they single cover our receivers on Sunday.

bbailey423 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

Irvin also played on a SUPERIOR team. Let's don't kid ourselves here. You are giving Witten too much for our lack of success and you're doing the same for Irvin's success.

Like I said in another post....we have been devoid of leadership for so long around here...that we do NOT realize how bad it is lacking. Sure the Cowboys in the 90s were good. But the dynasty died when Irvin fell to the turf in Vets stadium on 1999. Micheal Irvin...a WR...was the MOST important player on that team. For many reasons. We won a Super Bowl with Kevin Williams playing opposite him. And I am sure many would argue Kevin Williams and/or Kelvin Martin could not even crack the rotation in Dallas. But Irvin was so good in his prime it did not matter that EVERYONE knew the ball was coming to him.