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gmb85 · 10-30-2012

It would be nice to have a quarterback who understands the meaning of ball security.

I don't give a flying you-know-what about Romo or whoever the quarterback is, if you turn the ball over, you will lose.

I used to care about Romo stats so I could prove to people how good he is. Well after year 7 of the Romo experiment, the only stats I care about now are wins and losses at this point.

windward · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Ken

The PI call was made, they decided pick up the flag which is ludicrous. It should have been 1st and goal at the 1. There was no way that was a call against Otree...not sure what you are looking at.

Romo is great in that he did better than get the 1st, he had either the TD or the ball on the 1. Because of the incompetence of the refs and the player he threw it to, it did not happen.

He also put the ball in the end zone to win the game. Perfect throw DEEP (which haters have been bashing him on) but fingertips prevented him from scoring.

He's also bashed for not being 'clutch' but he put the ball on Otree that should have put us ahead or in position to go ahead and he put the ball on Dez with precision only to have it taken away.

This is on the heels of what he did in Baltimore.....

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FWIW the people who think Romo should be replaced are not advocating going after UDFAs, headcases like Quincy or a retread like Bledsoe but rather spending a premium pick on a QB(1st or 2nd round)

superpunk · 10-30-2012

The only alarming thing is the way he is missing open guys recently on routine throws we've seen him make in his sleep.

Have to hope it's the result of an injury or something.

Because when mobile QBs legs go they go fast, and it's all downhill from there. And we're going to need to extend him soon or move on.

windward · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by superpunk

The only alarming thing is the way he is missing open guys recently on routine throws we've seen him make in his sleep.

Have to hope it's the result of an injury or something.

Because when mobile QBs legs go they go fast, and it's all downhill from there. And we're going to need to extend him soon or move on.

It will be tragic if we do move on. I like the guy so much and I wanted him to lead us to #6.

Que Sera Sera...

Ken · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

Why do they need to go back to those days? Cincy got rid of Palmer and replaced him with a good young QB, Skins decided they HAD to get a QB and seemed to have gotten a good one, Broncos went out and got a legend...if you really want a QB you have to make the commitment. The Cowboys for years tip toed around the issue instead of making a serious commitment, had they done so they wouldn't need have had to suffer through the Q or Henson days.

Romo has talent no question, but the chronic lack of patience and inability to stay away from mistakes seems to have gotten worse. Now, his accuracy is even leaving him which spells very average in my books. The Cowboys franchise should not tolerate average at the QB position. If Romo can't turn this around, I see no reason to extend him.

The skins went through how many years of horrible qbs before getting a shot at RGIII. Do you forget the 1st round pick they spent on Campbell and the high pick they spent on Patrick Ramsey? How about the picks they gave up for McNabb?

The Bengals certainly got a young qb with some promise. Having said that, he only has 3 less ints than Romo has this year. I'll grant you that he is only in his 2nd year but he is far from a sure fire franchise qb imo.

As far as Romo's accuracy, he has missed on a few passes this year that were headscratchers. No doubt.

Having said that, he is 7th in the league in completion percentage and above a guy like Brady.

65% is darn good.

superpunk · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by windward

It will be tragic if we do move on. I like the guy so much and I wanted him to lead us to #6.

Que Sera Sera...

What will be tragic is if he moves on from us and wins one elsewhere because he can't take this crap from Jerry and the Ginger anymore.

DanteEXT · 10-30-2012

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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

Why do they need to go back to those days? Cincy got rid of Palmer and replaced him with a good young QB, Skins decided they HAD to get a QB and seemed to have gotten a good one, Broncos went out and got a legend...if you really want a QB you have to make the commitment. The Cowboys for years tip toed around the issue instead of making a serious commitment, had they done so they wouldn't need have had to suffer through the Q or Henson days.

Romo has talent no question, but the chronic lack of patience and inability to stay away from mistakes seems to have gotten worse. Now, his accuracy is even leaving him which spells very average in my books. The Cowboys franchise should not tolerate average at the QB position. If Romo can't turn this around, I see no reason to extend him.

I though Palmer refused to play for the Bengals anymore.

rickjameschinaclub · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by superpunk

What will be tragic is if he moves on from us and wins one elsewhere because he can't take this crap from Jerry and the Ginger anymore.

He'd deserve it and then all the Ginger-homers can finally see the light..

superpunk · 10-31-2012

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He'd deserve it and then all the Ginger-homers can finally see the light..

I'd be so happy for him, lol. Witten and Ware too, if they ever have to move on.

It's a shame how badly we are wasting the primes of these GREAT players.

DallasCowpoke · 10-31-2012

A good bit of what the OP has merit, but I'm sorry, some of y'all need to take your blinders off. Romo BADLY missed receivers on at least 3 occasions I recall sunday. And those weren't due to him "running for his life on nearly every play".

Romo's a very good QB and I'm happy he's there. But this complete absolution he's getting because of all the other factors mentioned, are just patently incorrect.

DejectedFan1996 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Ken

The skins went through how many years of horrible qbs before getting a shot at RGIII. Do you forget the 1st round pick they spent on Campbell and the high pick they spent on Patrick Ramsey? How about the picks they gave up for McNabb?

The Bengals certainly got a young qb with some promise. Having said that, he only has 3 less ints than Romo has this year. I'll grant you that he is only in his 2nd year but he is far from a sure fire franchise qb imo.

As far as Romo's accuracy, he has missed on a few passes this year that were headscratchers. No doubt.

Having said that, he is 7th in the league in completion percentage and above a guy like Brady.

65% is darn good.

65% dinking and dunking isn't all that special. I forget where I read the stat, but Romo's throws over 20 yards plus is extremely low. Tom Brady throws deep more than 50% of the time. Romo never goes deep and if he does, its usually picked off.

SWG9 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

Please stop the excuses.

Listen, I get some of what your saying. I laid it out there myself today. He puts up stats and he is the best we have behind a bad oline. Agree

BUT he has also been part of the problem for years. These aren't new mistakes. Along with the talent and overcoming the line you get his 10 cent brain that shorts out during seasons and will lose a game or two. That is fact. There are a lot if guys like Roethlisberger and others who gave succeeded despite their line and weapons. They minimize mistakes and ride what they have. Romo hasn't learned that. A lot of his mistakes change the momentum of games...see Baltimore a few years back where everyone blamed the D at the end. Great plays with dumb plays equals .500

Absolutely spot on. Fantastic comment.

SWG9 · 10-31-2012

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Originally Posted by DallasCowpoke

A good bit of what the OP has merit, but I'm sorry, some of y'all need to take your blinders off. Romo BADLY missed receivers on at least 3 occasions I recall sunday. And those weren't due to him "running for his life on nearly every play".

Romo's a very good QB and I'm happy he's there. But this complete absolution he's getting because of all the other factors mentioned, are just patently incorrect.

There have been games where Romo's receivers and OL failed him miserably, but Sunday wasn't one of them. The line was more than adequate and Witten, Austin, and Bryant were all balling.

Romo flat out sucked Sunday, and he missed a lot more than 3 throws. A LOT.

Eskimo · 10-31-2012

I agree that some times Romo's teammates have let him down. I did not think he was one of the ten best players that we had on the field for us on Sunday. The Dez INT was probably a WR mistake but also a poor QB read. The Austin TD was a poor decision/throw, the JPP INT should have been lofted a bit more and I think he messed up the red zone sequence at the end of the game.

I do think he is playing at about an average level right now in the league and that isn't good enough for a guy making $11M per year.

I think his limitations in size, arm strength and ability to make reads has finally caught up to him and I don't think he'll be elite again unless his surrounding cast is elite. So we could still win with him with a great defense and a great running game but we usually haven't even had one of those most years here and this is a QB league right now.

I think we should try and trade him in the offseason and start over. He is never going to take us to the promised land but is still a valuable trading chip.