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11-01-2012
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Just think about how frustrating it must be if you (being Romo) gets pretty much all the blame for picks--and really gets clobbered nationally--when time and time again you actually made the right play.
He has screwed up plenty. No denying some of those blunders.
But this is not high school or college, where you throw the ball when the guy is open.
In the NFL, you throw the ball with anticipation or you never make it past one season. If you can't rely on somene to to be where they should be, or almost as bad, you can't rely on someone to fight their tail off for every ball in air, you are in trouble.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by Bill Wooten
Then the only receiver he would throw to would be Witten and we'd hear everyone complaining that he doesn't involve any of the WRs or round 2 of the "Romo and Witten are making secret plays" BS.
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He should be throwing more to witten and miles. Miles usually makes good things happen.
Never should he throw to ogletree in that situation like he did last week. Take the short throw for the first down to a reliable receiver instead of going for it all with someone who will probably drop it if he gets his hands on it.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by tomsanders921
He should be throwing more to witten and miles. Miles usually makes good things happen.
Never should he throw to ogletree in that situation like he did last week. Take the short throw for the first down to a reliable receiver instead of going for it all with someone who will probably drop it if he gets his hands on it.
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I agree.
On paper it was the right call, but it was higher risk anyway given the player involved.
These guys have split seconds to make the calls, so it make be tought to not go to the guy who was actually the desgned option for the given situation.
In any case, I wish he would have gone for Miles there.
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11-01-2012
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Im a huge Romo critic. I think his carelessness at times isunreal. Fumble and INTs. Howeverthis pattern with Otree and Dez should be fixed by Garrett. If they cant learn then replace them with someone who runs the correct route.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by juck
Im a huge Romo critic.
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We thought you were on the fence.
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11-01-2012
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At what point are we going to quit blaming Dez Bryant is the real question...not, whether or not Romo should be blamed.
Dez is what he is. I remember Aikman's comments about Harper getting inside the safety on the big play in the '92 NFCC game, how he knew Irvin would, but wasn't sure about Harper.
That's where Bryant is. Or worse, Romo almost has to expect Dez not to do what he should. The scout in Galloway's article has it right with respect to that play, it's on Romo. Not for a poor read or poor throw, but for trusting Dez Bryant. Or, more appropriately, the real blame is on the guy who made the ultimate decision to burn a 1st rounder on Bryant.
Another wasted pick. Another bad decision. And proving each every week, in spades, why such a physically gifted player dropped so far in the draft.
“He doesn’t like it because Jerry thinks he’s the walk-around head coach." - Jimmy Johnson
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11-01-2012
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Emmitt was on the NFLNW talking about some of these plays and how dez just flat out misses his reads.
They showed the Bears pick six and the Giants game as examples.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Not me. I don't believe the evaluation of the 1st pick is accurate. I still believe that it was a poor decision. Re-watched it again and still, I think the Giants new what was coming and they baited Tony. I think the ball was thrown too high, even if the route was run correctly and I think Tony threw a medicine ball, at best. I know you don't agree with this Idgit. That's OK but for the record, I don't agree with this guy. JMO.
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Yeah, it's a stretch to say Dez would have prevented a pick had he attempted the correct route.
If the safety is in good position and Dez is the guy you're counting on to be in exactly the right place at the time...please don't throw that ball.
There's never been any question Dez that screwed up.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by punchnjudy
Yeah, it's a stretch to say Dez would have prevented a pick had he attempted the correct route.
If the safety is in good position and Dez is the guy you're counting on to be in exactly the right place at the time...please don't throw that ball.
There's never been any question Dez that screwed up.
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That part
The saftey was right where he was expected to be.
Dez was to cut the route shorter and cut across and in front of the safety for a very easy reception. Instead, he kept going downfield.
You have know choice but assume your recievers will run the right route.
Otherwise, just run the ball every down.
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11-01-2012
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I pretty much agree with what he said. I understand blaming Romo on the JPP pick, but man was that a great play by the defender.
So I guess you blame the QB but far less than you usually would.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by DFWJC
That part
The saftey was right where he was expected to be.
Dez was to cut the route shorter and cut across and in front of the safety for a very easy reception. Instead, he kept going downfield.
You have know choice but assume your recievers will run the right route.
Otherwise, just run the ball every down.
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Dez absolutely ran the wrong route. That's the one thing that I think everybody can agree on.
However, I honestly believe that the Giants new what was coming. The Cowboys had run 20 play action passes on the season, up to that point. On almost half of them, the play was to Dez on that pattern. I think the Giants new this through film study and they sent the strong safety on a blitz to bait Romo. If you watch the play, the Free Safety slides to the side of the field that Dez is on before the ball is ever in the air. Once the ball is thrown, the Safety breaks on it before Dez does. I think they new that was coming and they jumped that route.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by DFWJC
Just think about how frustrating it must be if you (being Romo) gets pretty much all the blame for picks--and really gets clobbered nationally--when time and time again you actually made the right play.
He has screwed up plenty. No denying some of those blunders.
But this is not high school or college, where you throw the ball when the guy is open.
In the NFL, you throw the ball with anticipation or you never make it past one season. If you can't rely on somene to to be where they should be, or almost as bad, you can't rely on someone to fight their tail off for every ball in air, you are in trouble.
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This right here!
Look you have to face the fact that Dez is just incapable of learning. He has a limited number of pass routes that he can run and it is risky to have him run option routes based on reading the defense.
Dez would be deadly and probably the best WR in the NFL if only he could learn complex plays like going in motion, and running routes from the slot, ala TO. It is just impossible to do with Dez. I am sure that Garrett wishes he could run a similar offense as when TO was here, vertical seam routes and crossing patterns from Dez. As much as I dislike Garrett as the HC, I don't think he has forgotten that offense that was so successful with TO. He just doesn't have the player to run that offense. And it is sad, because Dez is every bit as talented, if not much more talented than TO.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
Dez absolutely ran the wrong route. That's the one thing that I think everybody can agree on.
However, I honestly believe that the Giants new what was coming. The Cowboys had run 20 play action passes on the season, up to that point. On almost half of them, the play was to Dez on that pattern. I think the Giants new this through film study and they sent the strong safety on a blitz to bait Romo. If you watch the play, the Free Safety slides to the side of the field that Dez is on before the ball is ever in the air. Once the ball is thrown, the Safety breaks on it before Dez does. I think they new that was coming and they jumped that route.
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If the giants knew what was coming, they would have been in position to defend the route Dez was supposed to run, not the route he actually ran.
Unless they also knew he was gonna run the wrong route, and what wrong route he would run.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by CowboyFan74
I agree with everything in this article except this part:
"People say there are trust issues with this offense. Heck, yes, there are. Any quarterback would have trust issues with those receivers."
I hate to say it but it should be the reverse. I don't believe the receivers trust Romo.. How many times has he thrown such a poor pass that the receivers have had to dive, jump very high, and even worse stretch themselves out exposing their ribs, spleen, etc?RW was never the same once Romo got his ribs busted up but that's just filler for the discussion.
TO (Yes he's a tool,) used to complain all the time about having to run routes, being wide open, and then either A. not getting the ball or B. it being a bad pass.
[View Full Quote]I see the same frustration in Austin's face every game. He just shakes it off. Dez is doing well all things considering, there's a learning curve there and he's still young. What's Oh no's excuse? Turnover Tony is a seasoned Vet but he is actually getting worse every game...
Romo needs to be benched, even if its just ONE freaken game, he needs to be benched already.. Where's the accountability??   
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Interesting post. Im sure all the Romo apologists will either just ignore or lash out.
The issue that is clearly evident is that Romo and these receivers have all been playing together for a while. None of these guys are new. No matter who deserves the majority of the blame, this stuff should not be happening with as long as these guys have played together.
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11-01-2012
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
Interesting post. Im sure all the Romo apologists will either just ignore or lash out.
The issue that is clearly evident is that Romo and these receivers have all been playing together for a while. None of these guys are new. No matter who deserves the majority of the blame, this stuff should not be happening with as long as these guys have played together.
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So it's Romo not making the right reads?
Or is it WR's not running the right routes?
Go ahead, make your claim.
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