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11-04-2012
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#46
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It is such a mystery to me how the defense can give up yards, but not points and be the reaosn we lose.
And yet the offense gets yards but no points and is absolved.
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11-04-2012
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaede
It is such a mystery to me how the defense can give up yards, but not points and be the reaosn we lose.
And yet the offense gets yards but no points and is absolved.
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Exactly... SMH 
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11-04-2012
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#48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaede
It is such a mystery to me how the defense can give up yards, but not points and be the reaosn we lose.
And yet the offense gets yards but no points and is absolved.
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Who's absolving anyone? Pointing out that the defense was bad tonight (and yes, if you allow the other guys to gain 60 or more yards on 6 of 9 possessions you played bad defense) doesn't mean the other elements of the team get a pass.
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11-04-2012
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#49
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I thought yards didn't matter it was the points allowed that did.
19 POINTS PEOPLE
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11-04-2012
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#50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshmil53
I thought yards didn't matter it was the points allowed that did.
19 POINTS PEOPLE
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Yards matter, field position matters, ToP matters, getting a stop at the end of the game matters. The defense failed tonight in all of those areas.
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11-04-2012
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coogrfan
Yards matter, field position matters, ToP matters, getting a stop at the end of the game matters. The defense failed tonight in all of those areas.
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They could give up 600 yards and only allow 20 points and I'd be perfectly okay.
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11-04-2012
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaede
It is such a mystery to me how the defense can give up yards, but not points and be the reaosn we lose.
And yet the offense gets yards but no points and is absolved.
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Pretty much...Reminds me of the Patriots game last year. Defense shuts down Brady all game AND even stops him late in the 4th quarter. Offense gives the ball right back and Brady burns us. Then we hear about how the defense doesn't get stops when it matters.
Hilarious. How long does our defense have to get stops before our offense puts points on the board? Until the end of overtime?
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11-05-2012
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#53
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Our defense didn't really get stops though. After the good punt return by Harris, this is where our drives began the rest of the night:
DAL 27
DAL 19
DAL 3
DAL 14
DAL 33
DAL 20
DAL 22
DAL 20
Atlanta played the field position game at will because we can't run the ball to sustain drives and they were able to beat us down the field. They are not the reason we lost, but our defense did not play well enough for us to win either.
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11-05-2012
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#54
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshmil53
I thought yards didn't matter it was the points allowed that did.
19 POINTS PEOPLE
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They scored 19 points (and should have scored 22 or 25 if not for missing two short field goals) on only nine possessions, seven of which started at or inside their own 21, one that started at their 27 and one at their 44 -- and one of those possessions started with only 1:03 on the clock.
When you give up 19 points on that few possessions from that kind of starting field position, that's terrible defense.
Oh, and the defense again failed to get a single turnover.
The defense shouldn't get all of the blame, but it should get its fair share. The defense was horrible.
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11-05-2012
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#55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJT13
They scored 19 points (and should have scored 22 or 25 if not for missing two short field goals) on only nine possessions, seven of which started at or inside their own 21, one that started at their 27 and one at their 44 -- and one of those possessions started with only 1:03 on the clock.
When you give up 19 points on that few possessions from that kind of starting field position, that's terrible defense.
Oh, and the defense again failed to get a single turnover.
The defense shouldn't get all of the blame, but it should get its fair share. The defense was horrible.
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I agree totally with this. The offense was bad, but it wasn't the reason the defense was woeful. IIRC, the offense didn't have many 3 and outs or did they turn the ball over putting the D in bad field position.
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11-05-2012
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#56
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How about that Rob Ryan exotic defense! Spencer blitzing from the sideline 
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11-05-2012
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJT13
They scored 19 points (and should have scored 22 or 25 if not for missing two short field goals) on only nine possessions, seven of which started at or inside their own 21, one that started at their 27 and one at their 44 -- and one of those possessions started with only 1:03 on the clock.
When you give up 19 points on that few possessions from that kind of starting field position, that's terrible defense.
Oh, and the defense again failed to get a single turnover.
The defense shouldn't get all of the blame, but it should get its fair share. The defense was horrible.
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This was my whole point basically. You can't just look at a single stat by itself and judge solely on that. You have to take into account the whole game and how it unfolded. This defense was put in good position all night long with the Falcons backed up. And they continued time and time again to let them march right down the field and giving up huge chunks to the WRs all night. Both Jones and Roddy have over 100yds receiving. Turner had over 100yds. They gained about 450 total. All in just 9 possessions. And the offense scores very quickly to give you a chance with about 6 minutes to play. And an offensive penalty puts the ball at their own 10 with 1st and 20. And what do they do? Let them gut out their insides the entire length of the field and waste all but 17 seconds. Just pathetic. No playmakers at all.
And the drive right before halftime to get 3 points was also horrible. 7 of the 9 drives they gained over 60 yards.
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11-05-2012
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#58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJT13
They scored 19 points (and should have scored 22 or 25 if not for missing two short field goals) on only nine possessions, seven of which started at or inside their own 21, one that started at their 27 and one at their 44 -- and one of those possessions started with only 1:03 on the clock.
When you give up 19 points on that few possessions from that kind of starting field position, that's terrible defense.
Oh, and the defense again failed to get a single turnover.
The defense shouldn't get all of the blame, but it should get its fair share. The defense was horrible.
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Originally Posted by Blackspider214
This was my whole point basically. You can't just look at a single stat by itself and judge solely on that. You have to take into account the whole game and how it unfolded. This defense was put in good position all night long with the Falcons backed up. And they continued time and time again to let them march right down the field and giving up huge chunks to the WRs all night. Both Jones and Roddy have over 100yds receiving. Turner had over 100yds. They gained about 450 total. All in just 9 possessions. And the offense scores very quickly to give you a chance with about 6 minutes to play. And an offensive penalty puts the ball at their own 10 with 1st and 20. And what do they do? Let them gut out their insides the entire length of the field and waste all but 17 seconds. Just pathetic. No playmakers at all.
And the drive right before halftime to get 3 points was also horrible. 7 of the 9 drives they gained over 60 yards.
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Some very valid points here, but they might fall on deaf ears on this board cause everything that is wrong with the Cowboys has to be related to the OL, Romo, or Dez.
The D isn't 'fine', and no matter how many times people want to say that on this board, it still doesn't make it true. The truth is while the OL is the problem on offense, on defense we have issues at every level.
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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11-05-2012
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#59
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Just think about this:
Terry Newman has as many interceptions as the entire Cowboy defense in a Zimmy coordinated defense.
BOOOOOOOOOOM ROASTED.
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11-05-2012
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#60
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Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Givincer
Hard to blame the defense outside of Scandrick on last drive. Blame rests entirely on the offense's inability to capitalize and get the ball in the end zone.
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Why does the blame rest entirely on the offense???
This is a team game, how about the defense/special teams get some turnovers to help the offence out???
Eight turnovers in eight games just doesn't cut it!!!
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