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Old 11-05-2012   #76
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Someone did an analysis before and I think almost 50% of his sacks were on third down and a lot were in the 4th.
Yes, but how many came in a one-score game where we needed to get the ball back or stop the opponent from scoring?
If he has 2 sacks in a row in a blowout with 10 minutes left in the fourth- that has minimal impact on the outcome, IMO.
How many sacks does he have in the last 5 minutes of one-possession games....when it truly counts?
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Old 11-05-2012   #77
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I'm sorry but I refuse to blame the defense, they held ATL to 19 freakin' points.
they scored on 5 of 9 drives. The only reason it wasn't 7 of 9 was because of missed FGs by Matt Bryant. They had one punt the whole night.

I will say this. THe defense needs to start forcing turnovers. There are 19 individual players in the league that has many or more INTs than Dallas as a team (3 ints)

the pass rush is anemic at best. they don't help the secondary much.

and Danny McCray = Alan Ball = awful
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Old 11-05-2012   #78
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That being said, the D played very well in the first half but we lost containment on Turner and let the run game get on track for them in the second half and we also missed some open field tackles that resulted in big plays too.

Overall, letting up the least amount of points all year to possibly the best offense in the league isn't that bad an effort though, imo.
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Old 11-05-2012   #79
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How many sacks does he have in the last 5 minutes of one-possession games....when it truly counts?
Ware has seven of those in the past five seasons -- more than Robert Mathis (6), Jared Allen (4), Dwight Freeney (4), Lamar Woodley (4), Tamba Hali (4), Cameron Wake (4), Clay Matthews (3), Julius Peppers (2), James Harrison (1), Trent Cole (1) and probably anyone else in the NFL.
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Old 11-05-2012   #80
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I love Irvin and crew saying the defense did enough. They gave up 8 20 yard plays and 450 yards. Child, please.

6 drives of 60 or more yards. 7 of 9 drives ended in points or a missed FG. Don't tell me the defense played well.

now, by no means am I suggesting the offense was good. But that was a given. Only am speaking about defense because of crazy talk.
Sturm shut up. You sound like a clown.
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Old 11-05-2012   #81
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Ware has seven of those in the past five seasons -- more than Robert Mathis (6), Jared Allen (4), Dwight Freeney (4), Lamar Woodley (4), Tamba Hali (4), Cameron Wake (4), Clay Matthews (3), Julius Peppers (2), James Harrison (1), Trent Cole (1) and probably anyone else in the NFL.

Even if Ware does get a sack under that scenario, I don't trust the defense as a whole to not give that yardage back and get a stop with the game on the line. Terrell Suggs is the only other possibility I can think of, but you've pretty much proved the point.
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Old 11-05-2012   #82
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Terrell Suggs is the only other possibility I can think of, but you've pretty much proved the point.
Suggs has none.
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Old 11-05-2012   #83
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Sturm shut up. You sound like a clown.
There's not one word of Sturm's rant that isn't 100% on point. Saying that our D played well last night is utterly ludicrous.
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I think this was the 2nd week in a row that our defense held the opponents offense to one TD.

And that was the defending SB Champs and the only undefeated team left.

We had 6 points halfway through the 4th quarter. SIX!

You can't continue to put that much pressure on a defense and expect them to shut down good NFL offenses over and over.

They get tired, and they get frustrated I'm sure when the offense does nothing posession after posession.

The offense needs to give them something to play for at some point.

Complaining about the defense is pretty weak in my opinion.
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Complaining about the defense is pretty weak in my opinion.
Everyone agrees that the offense stunk last night, but people who think that the defense played well are fooling themselves. That was easily the defense's worst performance of the season.
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Everyone agrees that the offense stunk last night, but people who think that the defense played well are fooling themselves. That was easily the defense's worst performance of the season.
If my defense holds that offense to one TD, .. I'm looking at my offense as to why we lost.

They have two great WR's, great TE, a good RB and a pretty good QB.

Had the offense showed up and contributed throughout the game, we may have been able to win.
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Everyone agrees that the offense stunk last night, but people who think that the defense played well are fooling themselves. That was easily the defense's worst performance of the season.
Wait, what? Easily the worst performance?? Week 2,4 and 6 says otherwise. I will take a defense that holds an explosive team like the Falcons on the road to 19 any week.

Is it the defenses fault their offense scored two lousy FG's up to the last minutes of the game? Our defense can't be expected to continually hold opponents down for 60 minutes without some friggin help.

Ryan is working with lots of injuries and is still managing to compete in most games. I will admit the defense chokes late in the games but if we actually had a decent lead to work with, it might be less often.

Too blame the defense last night is wrong, they played well overall. Blame Scandrick, sure but not the entire defense.
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If my defense holds that offense to one TD, .. I'm looking at my offense as to why we lost.

They have two great WR's, great TE, a good RB and a pretty good QB.

Had the offense showed up and contributed throughout the game, we may have been able to win.
The offense consistently had horrible field position (outside of the first drive) due to the defense allowing 10 yards per attempt to Ryan. They might not be the reason we lost, but we certainly didn't lose in spite of them either.
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If my defense holds that offense to one TD
If that offense gets the ball four times in an entire game, starts each possession inside its own 20 and scores one TD, kicks a field goal, misses a short field goal and punts once from midfield, is that good or bad defense?
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Our average starting field position as a result of the defense getting torched through the air was our own 25 yard line, and that's including a big punt return by Harris. They did not lose the game, but they certainly didn't help us win the game either.
What did the offense do after the defensive stop and the great punt return? Did they score? Did they do anything?
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