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11-06-2012
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#91
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Just to touch on a few things that were mentioned here...
1. Best hour of TV ever? I'm sorry, but as a fan of The Sopranos, Dexter, LOST, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy and The Shield, this isn't even close. It was a good episode, sure, but nothing from The Walking Dead could ever touch the best from those other shows because the quality of the writing, acting, directing, characters and storylines were so much better. I dig The Walking Dead, but it lacks the emotional punch of those other shows I mentioned.
2. I'm glad Lori is dead. She was one of the most annoying TV characters I've ever seen. Her actions nor her words made any sense. "Rick, kill Shane, he's a threat!" ... Rick kills Shane in self defense... "You killed Shane?! You horrible monster, get away from me!!!" Ugh. I was literally clapping and cheering once I realized they were gonna kill her.
3. I was more upset about losing Silent T Dog than I was Lori. True story.
4. That said, Rick's breakdown was fantastic. Best piece of acting there's ever been on The Walking Dead, barnone.
5. Now THAT said, some fans are saying it's the best acting ever done on TV, period. Please refer to the shows listed in my #1 point. Watch Tony and Carmela Soprano have a little domestic dispute. Watch Dexter Morgan internalize the emotion of love as nothingness then attempt to outwardly express it. Watch Benjamin Linus and John Locke in a battle of wits. Watch Walter White verbally explode on the weaker, sweeter Jesse Pinkman. Watch an incarcerated D'Angelo Barksdale scream out "Where's Wallace?!" at a quietly boiling Stringer Bell. Rick's breakdown was really great, but it's not an all-timer.
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11-06-2012
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#93
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Do you like movies about Gladiators?
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Originally Posted by Future
She died in the novels around this time, no way she'll be back I don't think.
This was one of the better episodes of the series. I still think Michonne is a ridiculous character, but Andrea's development into being almost sexual is a cool change.
T Dog's death is simply going to be replaced by the new prisoner whose name escapes me. Maybe they make him the football player?
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You mean Tyrese. He was a good character in the comics. The interesting thing is that Lori's death served a much bigger purpose in the comics as far as this prison storyline goes.
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11-06-2012
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#94
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Originally Posted by EMMITTnROY
Just to touch on a few things that were mentioned here...
1. Best hour of TV ever? I'm sorry, but as a fan of The Sopranos, Dexter, LOST, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Game of Thrones, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy and The Shield, this isn't even close. It was a good episode, sure, but nothing from The Walking Dead could ever touch the best from those other shows because the quality of the writing, acting, directing, characters and storylines were so much better. I dig The Walking Dead, but it lacks the emotional punch of those other shows I mentioned.
2. I'm glad Lori is dead. She was one of the most annoying TV characters I've ever seen. Her actions nor her words made any sense. "Rick, kill Shane, he's a threat!" ... Rick kills Shane in self defense... "You killed Shane?! You horrible monster, get away from me!!!" Ugh. I was literally clapping and cheering once I realized they were gonna kill her.
[View Full Quote]3. I was more upset about losing Silent T Dog than I was Lori. True story.
4. That said, Rick's breakdown was fantastic. Best piece of acting there's ever been on The Walking Dead, barnone.
5. Now THAT said, some fans are saying it's the best acting ever done on TV, period. Please refer to the shows listed in my #1 point. Watch Tony and Carmela Soprano have a little domestic dispute. Watch Dexter Morgan internalize the emotion of love as nothingness then attempt to outwardly express it. Watch Benjamin Linus and John Locke in a battle of wits. Watch Walter White verbally explode on the weaker, sweeter Jesse Pinkman. Watch an incarcerated D'Angelo Barksdale scream out "Where's Wallace?!" at a quietly boiling Stringer Bell. Rick's breakdown was really great, but it's not an all-timer.
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well, i don't watch tv to your standards of entertainment, but to my own. this was one of the most enjoyable episodes i've EVER seen and to me, the best hour of TV in a long long long LONG time. take out 1 episode of BOSS and it's the best in many years gone by.
just not into many of the shows you named, sorry.
this show took some major twists and setup quite a few story possibilities that *to me* make it far from predictable.
1) i stand by best hour of TV. glad you disagree and have others to point to but i don't watch those although i've tried.
2) if you were clapping and cheering, then the writers did their job. that said, i'm glad this part of the story is over. carl has a lot to have to deal with now, putting down shane and having to put a bullet in his own mothers head. rick has his hands full here.
3) anyone notice the no-hair chic also got ate and didn't make it? tdog did great in trying to get her free, but hers was the body they found.
4) agreed. he pulled a ton of emotion out of me in how he broke down and staggered back and forth.
5) not into rating. i enjoyed this show because of how they ended some story lines and started quite a few more. i rated this show so high because of how they told the story in as much as the "acting".
those other shows you mention just don't do it for me. so i'll stand by what i said and feel free to disagree.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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11-06-2012
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#95
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Originally Posted by iceberg
3) anyone notice the no-hair chic also got ate and didn't make it? tdog did great in trying to get her free, but hers was the body they found.
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See, I was wondering about that. I thought it was T-Dogg's body there. I know Daryl picked up her head thing but when T-Dogg was helping her get out she was at the door leading outside. I know Hershel said no one came out of there but I thought that was T-Dogg's body.
EDIT:
Just found an interview that says it wasn't her body. It much have been T-Dog's so she could still be alive.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/04/wa...ert-kirkman-8/
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams
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11-06-2012
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#96
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A friend of my son owns a comic book store and I asked him what he thought of the series. He told me that he stopped reading the comic, as it was just "too depressing". He does watch the show, strangely enough, and feels that it's pretty true to the fel of the comc book. It is incredibly tragic and I can see why people might not find it their cup of tea. Personally, I enjoy the whole "zombie" shtick. Perhaps the trick is to be grounded in your own reality and avoid the "Bath Salts". 
The Truth will STILL not be the first casualty of war
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11-06-2012
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#97
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detoxed
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Originally Posted by AmarilloCowboyFan
See, I was wondering about that. I thought it was T-Dogg's body there. I know Daryl picked up her head thing but when T-Dogg was helping her get out she was at the door leading outside. I know Hershel said no one came out of there but I thought that was T-Dogg's body.
EDIT:
Just found an interview that says it wasn't her body. It much have been T-Dog's so she could still be alive.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/11/04/wa...ert-kirkman-8/
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nice find. i thought at first it was tdog also then the "wrap" was there and when they asked about tdog and her, everyone said they didn't make it.
guess we'll find out next week.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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11-06-2012
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#98
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"You Want Some?"
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Hey Emmitt, I think you gave the episode short-shift because you dislike the Lori character so much.
I think if you look at the bigger picture you'll realize how strong of an episode it actually was.
No doubt Lori is dead.
And T-dog was dead too... He took some wicked bites.
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11-06-2012
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#99
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Do you like movies about Gladiators?
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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Hey Emmitt, I think you gave the episode short-shift because you dislike the Lori character so much.
I think if you look at the bigger picture you'll realize how strong of an episode it actually was.
No doubt Lori is dead.
And T-dog was dead too... He took some wicked bites.
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I don't believe it is a short shaft as much as it is a matter of taste and the hang-over from the first half of season 2. Darabont has done a lot of great things in his day (Shawshank, Green Mile), but he could not wrap his mind around the highs and lows needed for week to week television. As a result, he really hosed up the first half of season two. Lori and Carl became disturbingly annoying and the Farm shows became incredibly drawn out in that time-frame.
Since Mazarra replaced Darabont, he has done a fantastic job of picking up the pace and fixing the issues that Darabont left behind. The face off episode between Shane and Rick at the end of last season was far better than this past Sunday in my opinion, but that is just nitpicking. The good news is that there has been no shortage of quality episodes since Mazarra has taken over and it is a must watch show every week in my book.
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11-08-2012
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#100
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That episode
It was great though
I'm not fat, I'm cultivating mass.
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11-08-2012
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#101
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I thought the last episode's greatness was only rivaled by the Shane episode late last season. I'm trying to remain spoiler free for those who may not have caught up yet.
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11-08-2012
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#102
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IMHO I dont know about this being a great episode...its was good...but I wouldnt call it great....by any means...
I love the show and all ...and im glad Lori is dead too.....way too annoying...the son is tough....
btw...I think the bald lady is still alive....that wasnt her body...I cant see them having a character like her just end like that....The Black guy sacrificed his life for her....cant see it meant for nothing.
JMHO of course
John 16:22 And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you.
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11-08-2012
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#103
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Federal Agent
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Agree with iceberg, one of the best hours of TV I've seen in a long time.
TWD is the most underrated show on TV.
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11-09-2012
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#104
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I'm not fat, I'm cultivating mass.
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11-10-2012
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#105
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I'm Complicated
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I didn't like Lori as a character, but I bawled my eyes out for her.
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