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11-06-2012
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Bleeding silver and blue
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A Rant: I'm really disgusted
I'm more disgusted than I have ever been in my 44 years as a Cowboys fan. With every passing week it's becoming increasingly obvious that there is something deeply wrong with this football team.
Of course, the Cowboys aren't the first team to go through a bad cycle, and they won't be the last. The difference between us and those other teams is that those other teams can fix what is wrong. If it's the coach, they can fire him and hire a new one. Same with the G.M. If there are holes on the team that need patching, it can get done through the draft and free agency.
But what hope does a fan have when the problem is the owner? Especially when that owner doubles down when anyone tries to point out to him that he IS the problem?
This team isn't going to head in the right direction anytime soon. All of the people on this board who blame Romo, or blame Garrett....you need to realize that even if Sean Payton (for example) agreed to coach the Cowboys and he brought Drew Brees along with him, it wouldn't change much. Sure, we might get to the playoffs and we might even win one round, but we'd be right back to mediocrity before long. We've seen it before with Jerry as owner (keep in mind, he couldn't keep Jimmy Johnson as our coach because his ego got in the way. What makes anyone think it would be different with Sean Payton or anyone else?)
I feel angry...and very sad.
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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A good coach makes Dallas a contender.
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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I let go of the anger years ago. I won't let this team hurt me. 
Unholy Trinity
Romo Jerrah Garrett
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tecolote
A good coach makes Dallas a contender.
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I'm not going to say that Garrett is a good coach (though I think he will be eventually), but it's kind of scary that the same demeanor and coach-speak he uses, Wade Phillips used.
I get the feeling that Garrett is resigned to the culture of the Cowboys, and that the situation is even bigger than he.
I see the same cheery, check-out mode in Garrett I saw in Phillips.
And, yet, when Phillips got out of Dallas, he turned the defense around in Houston, something he couldn't adequately do when he was here in Dallas.
Yes, a defensive coordinator is slightly different than a head coach, but how is it in the area where you are an expert (in Wade's case, defense), you were abysmal in Dallas yet go further South in Texas and transform a defense that wasn't nearly as talented as Dallas' and turn them into a hit squad?
It just baffles me. I suspect if Jerry Jones ultimately lets Jason Garrett go, he'll prove himself elsewhere - as an offensive coordinator if not as a head coach.
Just my take.
"Jason Garrett will have the Cowboys in the NFC Championship Game within three years." - Tyke1doe, August 19, 2011
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11-06-2012
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Bleeding silver and blue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tecolote
A good coach makes Dallas a contender.
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I'm not disputing that. But how long before Jerry gets jealous of said "good coach" and runs him off as he did to Jimmy Johnson? Sure, we got 2 Super Bowl victories before Jimmy left...but when that happened it sent a message to all good coaches around the league about working with Jerry.
Ever wonder why we haven't even come close since? (Barry Switzer's SB notwithstanding, because he did that with Jimmy's team).
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tecolote
A good coach makes Dallas a contender.
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What if the talent/players are the real issue for the on the field junk?
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gmb85
I let go of the anger years ago. I won't let this team hurt me. 
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Yep, me too.
I'm still a Cowboys fan. But my expectations are just so low, I don't get as nearly as hurt when they lose like I used to.
"Jason Garrett will have the Cowboys in the NFC Championship Game within three years." - Tyke1doe, August 19, 2011
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11-06-2012
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Bleeding silver and blue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyke1doe
I'm not going to say that Garrett is a good coach (though I think he will be eventually), but it's kind of scary that the same demeanor and coach-speak he uses, Wade Phillips used.
I get the feeling that Garrett is resigned to the culture of the Cowboys, and that the situation is even bigger than he.
I see the same cheery, check-out mode in Garrett I saw in Phillips.
And, yet, when Phillips got out of Dallas, he turned the defense around in Houston, something he couldn't adequately do when he was here in Dallas.
Yes, a defensive coordinator is slightly different than a head coach, but how is it in the area where you are an expert (in Wade's case, defense), you were abysmal in Dallas yet go further South in Texas and transform a defense that wasn't nearly as talented as Dallas' and turn them into a hit squad?
[View Full Quote]It just baffles me. I suspect if Jerry Jones ultimately lets Jason Garrett go, he'll prove himself elsewhere - as an offensive coordinator if not as a head coach.
Just my take.
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Resigned to the culture of the Cowboys = resigned to the culture that Jerry Jones has created. Yes.
It's not a coincidence. Not at all.
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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Yup a good coach can teach scandrick how to tackle or play free safety or become a good offensive lineman.....NOW a good coach can draft better players
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11-06-2012
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyke1doe
Yep, me too.
I'm still a Cowboys fan. But my expectations are just so low, I don't get as nearly as hurt when they lose like I used to.
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You are not alone. So many Cowboys fans saying this kind of thing. Its pathetic really. Not that the fans are pathetic, but this franchise.
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11-06-2012
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Bleeding silver and blue
Years Donated 2010, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyke1doe
Yep, me too.
I'm still a Cowboys fan. But my expectations are just so low, I don't get as nearly as hurt when they lose like I used to.
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But see, that's part of why I AM so angry. Not about any particular loss, no...like you, I've lowered my expectations almost to the point where I'm cynical about the Cowboys even if they take a 14-point lead into the 4th quarter ( "ok, how are we going to lose this game this time?")
I'm angry over the fact that it has to be that way, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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11-06-2012
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#12
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cajuncocoa
I'm more disgusted than I have ever been in my 44 years as a Cowboys fan. With every passing week it's becoming increasingly obvious that there is something deeply wrong with this football team.
Of course, the Cowboys aren't the first team to go through a bad cycle, and they won't be the last. The difference between us and those other teams is that those other teams can fix what is wrong. If it's the coach, they can fire him and hire a new one. Same with the G.M. If there are holes on the team that need patching, it can get done through the draft and free agency.
But what hope does a fan have when the problem is the owner? Especially when that owner doubles down when anyone tries to point out to him that he IS the problem?
[View Full Quote]This team isn't going to head in the right direction anytime soon. All of the people on this board who blame Romo, or blame Garrett....you need to realize that even if Sean Payton (for example) agreed to coach the Cowboys and he brought Drew Brees along with him, it wouldn't change much. Sure, we might get to the playoffs and we might even win one round, but we'd be right back to mediocrity before long. We've seen it before with Jerry as owner (keep in mind, he couldn't keep Jimmy Johnson as our coach because his ego got in the way. What makes anyone think it would be different with Sean Payton or anyone else?)
I feel angry...and very sad.
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Your just now figuring out something is wrong here? That should have happened in your head about 10 years ago.
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11-06-2012
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Run-loving Dino
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Said it before, but Jerry made one big mistake with Garrett. When Wade was here, everyone blamed everything on him. He was the easy punching bag because he looked like a guy selling watermelons off the back of his pickup, so people, especially the local media, focused the heat on him.
Garrett was supposed to be the young backup QB, the whiz kid who was being held back by his head coach and who would fix everything when he took over. But now that the curtain is pulled back and all that has been exposed as a myth, all that blame that went 90% to the head coach before is now being trained on the entire organization, and especially on Jerry himself.
Problem is, Jerry doesn't care. He'll keep taking the punches and stick his chin out for more.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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11-06-2012
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Bleeding silver and blue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
Your just now figuring out something is wrong here? That should have happened in your head about 10 years ago.
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I still had hope 10 years ago. 10 years ago, we had just hired Bill Parcells. I really thought he would do more than one-and-done in the playoffs. Twice.
I even had hopes for Jason Garrett. But now I see he's no more than a "yes" man and that's all Jerry wants. Any coach who refuses to kiss Jerry's rear end has no future in Dallas.
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11-06-2012
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Waitin' on the 6th
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyke1doe
Yep, me too.
I'm still a Cowboys fan. But my expectations are just so low, I don't get as nearly as hurt when they lose like I used to.
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Originally Posted by cajuncocoa
But see, that's part of why I AM so angry. Not about any particular loss, no...like you, I've lowered my expectations almost to the point where I'm cynical about the Cowboys even if they take a 14-point lead into the 4th quarter ("ok, how are we going to lose this game this time?")
I'm angry over the fact that it has to be that way, and I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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I tried for a long time to not let this team rip my heart out. I finally pulled it off before, during and after the Giants game. First time ever!
I never once let myself think that we might win the game. How sad is that?
But it worked, .. and it worked again Sunday night.
Now I don't get mad during the games, I just sit and watch. I'm not mad after the game either.
No emotion. Just change the channel and do something else.
I don't know what to make of this, but I have had to do this to protect myself.
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