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Old 11-08-2012   #46
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If it's a vet we're after, Greg Jennings and Wes Welker are the two most notable FAs available. If we could snag Welker, I have a feeling he'd be Tony's new best friend.
I'd take Greg Jennings over Welker any day, if only because we already have a really good slot receiver in Austin and zero outside help.
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Thanks CS for the post. Greatly appreciated.

I think Romo is in the early stages of the Jim Everett disease. He feels the rush even when he can step up. And this is a trust issue: he doesn't trust his interior line to give him a pocket and he doesn't trust his outside options to be where they're supposed to be. The dumbing down of the offense to suit his dumb receivers must be eating at him. Can you imagine New England or Denver dumbing down their offenses? Brady and Manning would have none of that and Romo shouldn't either. It's definitely a shame that at this stage of his career he has to put up with this stuff.
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Great post.

I appreciate the words on Garrett. I've been very critical of him, but sometimes, a little perspective is nice. Perhaps I'll give him a little more leeway.

And re: Romo. It's sucks to read, but we've all been watching the same games. He's pretty clearly not himself.

I think you can explain his performance by simply saying he's uncomfortable. He doesn't look comfortable in the pocket, obviously, he doesn't look comfortable with his receivers, he doesn't look comfortable with the offense, and he just doesn't look comfortable playing. He has kind of a resigned look in his eyes lately.

It's hard work being a father, but I wouldn't blame his fatherhood for his poor play. Especially because it's also extremely hard work being a starting NFL QB. Romo's a professional and I sincerely doubt having a child would have such a profound impact on his performance.

I'd say it's more to do with pressure, in the literal and figurative sense, coming from all angles. When pressure is applied to a person--and especially a QB--from everywhere, that person is going to be uncomfortable.
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I think Romo is in the early stages of the Jim Everett disease.
My goodness, I had the same Jim Everett comparison thought myself a few times this season.

I never voiced it because mainly because I didn't think most of the folks on CZ even remembered Jim Everett.

I support your statement!
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My goodness, I had the same Jim Everett comparison thought myself a few times this season.

I never voiced it because mainly because I didn't think most of the folks on CZ even remembered Jim Everett.

I support your statement!
thanks, LOL. but seriously, he's going through the early stages of that. been beat up and battered round (like the travelin wilburies song)
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What I've seen of Tony this year, he doesn't look like he's using the ability to play. It looks to me like it's certain types of passes he's sailing (mostly throws to the flat or crossing routes to his left), and then he's pretty clearly hesitant to throw to two of his WRs, which adds an additional burden to his split-second decision making process. It's making him less effective.

I'd guess his physical problem is probably either mechanical, or he's got a nagging muscle issue of some sort that affects his mechanics in certain situations. And I suspect the later, but I don't know enough about QB mechanics to say what it might be.
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If you ever read the book Seabiscuit by Laura Hillenbrand, they go into great detail about his main racing rival War Admiral that they really didn't touch upon as much in the movie adaptation. War Admiral physically was a labratory specimen of a horse, but but he had one Achilles Heal that the Seabiscuit team was able to exploit ... he was just very high strung in his mental hardwiring (not unlike his father. Man of War, who is probably the greatest thoroughbred of all time). He was prone to bouts of frenzy. He went crazy when they put him in the claustrophic starting gate, and was prone to injuring himself. Dez reminds me of War Admiral, and I think teams exploit it. His very first catch in the Giants game, the Giants DB gives him a little half a shove while he was on the ground to get him wound up, and Dez predictably retaliated and went into a frenzy. No more able to ignore the bait than a cat is able to ignore the dancing feather in front of him. He might be doing the right things in practices and training camp and mini-camps, but that all goes for naught when he's frothing the the mouth and not thinking clearly in the heat of competition. The older I get the more I realize how people can change consciously make changes in their routines and habits through diligence and self awareness, but more times than not people are beholden to their natural hardwired personalities, and it gives me less hope for Dez. At this point I kind of look at him as a sunk cost that they Cowboys are going to keep going to hoping for the payoff.

I've been a Day 1 Romo fan dating back to the Romo vs. Henson days, but I agree something is off this year. I do think he's probably got a mechanical flaw (but then again he's never been a picture of perfect mechanics), but in a bigger picture he's not even the same person in persona and mannerisms. When he was his younger self everyone jumped on him for being too happy go lucky and carefree. I personally long for the days of the hat-on-backwards, going to Cabbo during the bye week, needling Parcells for being an old dinosaur Romo we got to know 5-6 years ago. It almost takes that kind of open defiance of gravity to play under this spotlight. Now he look like a guy with who fully realizes he's got one of the world's most visible franchises on his back. Chalk it up to being a new father, husband, playing for his last contract, knowing his window is closing ... but there is an air of beatendown, quiet desperation about him.

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If you ever read the book Seabiscuit by Laura Hillenbrand, they go into great detail about his main racing rival War Admiral that they really didn't touch upon as much in the movie adaptation. War Admiral physically was a labratory specimen of a horse, but but he had one Achilles Heal that the Seabiscuit team was able to exploit ... he was just very high strung in his mental hardwiring (not unlike his father. Man of War, who is probably the greatest thoroughbred of all time). He was prone to bouts of frenzy. He went crazy when they put him in the claustrophic starting gate, and was prone to injuring himself. Dez reminds me of War Admiral, and I think teams exploit it. His very first catch in the Giants game, the Giants DB gives him a little half a shove while he was on the ground to get him wound up, and Dez predictably retaliated and went into a frenzy. No more able to ignore the bait than a cat is able to ignore the dancing feather in front of him. He might be [View Full Quote]

I think it has often been noted that Dez can get bumped pretty easily and frustrated with early press coverage, which is shocking considering his physical ability. You can't be a WR like he is, already a poor route runner, and then throw in the ability to get frustrated by a little press.
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If you ever read the book Seabiscuit by Laura Hillenbrand, they go into great detail about his main racing rival War Admiral that they really didn't touch upon as much in the movie adaptation....

Chalk it up to being a new father, husband, playing for his last contract, knowing his window is closing ... but there is an air of beatendown, quiet desperation about him.
Both great points IR.

I especially agree about Romo appearing beaten down. He used to have a lot of energy, enthusiasm for the sport. But it appears the pressures of the position may have gotten to him. Has a bit of a 'here we go again...' look to him. Now that I think of it, Miles too seems to have lost his smile. Are they taking things too seriously? Are they too tight (or, not loose enough)?

And Dez just is not getting it. If someone could get through to him, he'd be a star. But it won't happen here. Like you said, some people just can't overcome how they're wired. Especially when there is no change made in their life to necessitate that kind of transformation.
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I agree with IR on both points. Though, re: Romo, it's not exactly a mystery that it's not as much fun throwing when you're not winning and your WRs aren't where they're supposed to be. I think if we were 6-2 right now, he'd be outwardly a lot happier. It's got to be heartbreaking to try so hard and keep coming up just short against good teams.
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One of the best threads ever.
Good work, guys. Very informative and thought-provoking.
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I agree with IR on both points. Though, re: Romo, it's not exactly a mystery that it's not as much fun throwing when you're not winning and your WRs aren't where they're supposed to be. I think if we were 6-2 right now, he'd be outwardly a lot happier. It's got to be heartbreaking to try so hard and keep coming up just short against good teams.

To put a crude point on it, I had a college buddy who used to say "I condone 'dating' (paraphrasing) ugly people to break out of a slump". Other than Carolina, the first half of the schedule hasn't provided many uglies to break out of a slump.

And I definitely think seasoned intelligent vet WR should be a high priority this offseason. I thought it should have been a priority this offseason, which is why I was advocating a Jabar Gaffney type of guy. We got a receiving core full of Alvin Harpers, and no Kelvin Martins (much less Michael Irvin) .

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This offense is flawed, it's designed to be a running offense that makes you pick your poison between defending the run or stopping the pass. The problem is teams are stopping the run with 7, and sometimes 6 guys. Until the running game comes back, this offense will continue to go nowhere.
In a nut shell. Also Romo has happy feet from playing behind a bunch of turn styles for years. BTW NFL scout and machine shop oporater, talk about diversity.
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I truly wish I had more time this season to report to you guys the things I see on a game by game basis, I just don't. I've got this new scouting business and all the stuff they are asking me to do, and my dad has started a machine shop and has asked me to help with it. I'm busier than I've ever been in any point in my life. However, I set aside time tonight specifically to write this for those of you who have been PMing me asking all kinds of questions. I haven't forgotten about you guys, or given up on this team, just have to much work to do. Let's get started shall we.



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Wow. you nailed it on all accounts. Bravo! & thanks for summing it all up nicely.
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