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11-06-2012
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#16
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From a pragmatic point of view the Saint's are a disaster as regards their D.
the part about Benson's granddaughter- I have heard other stories about her. She is a real piece of work.
Coldly weighing the various factors its maybe a slim possibility.
SP would have to consider Jerruh and whether he could really run the show like he wants to.
SP would want at least as much control as BP had.
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11-06-2012
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#17
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Please let this happen, c'mon Cowboys, get it done...
This would be a great move.
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11-07-2012
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#18
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Of course I'm biased as a Saints fan, but as someone who lives in Dallas and gets to hear and see the workings of this organization up close, I can't reconcile how today's Sean Payton would fit the role of the Cowboys head coach. He's an alpha, as is Jerry. Tom Benson lets Sean and Mickey call the shots, while he writes the checks. Nobody else runs that show but Sean Payton. That's an ideal employment situation.
People suggest that he could spend more time with his kids if he lived in Dallas. But how much more time? From the stories I've read and heard, quality time with the family is scarce during the season for any head coach, regardless of where their kids are located. Besides it's just a 50 minute plane ride on Benson's private jet, if need be.
People mention money as a motivator, but Benson can match any offer put on the table. Ten years ago, Benson was regarded as cheap. Everything he's done since 2006 indicates otherwise. The Saints won't necessarily overpay players, but Benson is generous with people he deems worthy. I'm certain Payton is on that list. Benson purchased the Hornets and recently offered to purchase the local newspaper. He's ok with investing money in a product he believes in.
He's paying Mickey Loomis to manage the Hornets and the Saints; and he gave Sean a job with the Hornets as well so he could earn money while on suspension. This isn't the cheap Tom Benson from years gone by. He's tasted success and he wants to keep it going. His pockets are fatter and his purse strings are looser than they ever were.
People bring up the fact that Sean and Jerry are friends as a reason he'd want to come to Dallas. Pre-existing friendships don't necessarily make for good superior/subordinate working relationships. Partnerships? Perhaps. I have good friends I could never work for.
Maybe the reason they're able to stay friends is because Sean left when he did. Sean and Parcells are also friends. Sean sees Parcells as a father figure; a mentor. I wonder what advice the father would impart upon the son about working as a head coach for their good friend Jerry?
Sean was ready to take a Raiders coaching job and Parcells talked him out of it. There are quite a few similarties between the Raiders and Cowboys, IMO.
The sole reason this is even an issue is because Payton wants to ensure his ties to Mickey Loomis; he wants to work for and answer to that GM. How does a person with that kind of mindset (being very particular about who they answer to and wanting that type of control) fit into Jerry's world?
It wasn't that long ago that this organization had everyone thinking Nnamdi Asomugha was packing his bags and headed to Dallas to get fitted for his new sliver and blue digs. Just because the Dallas Cowboys want something doesn't mean they always get it. There are other owners out there with deep pockets; there are other locales more desirable.
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11-08-2012
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#19
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Drunken Mick
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Excellent post.
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11-08-2012
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#20
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This is the only way for Jerry to pull this out of the ditch. Cause at this rate he is just getting himself more and more stuck.
**** JJ 2013 Draft Board ****
1) RB ... gotta get a felix replacement
2) DB ... need to replace Jenkins
3) WR\TE ... need more offense
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11-08-2012
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#21
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I keep reading people claiming Jerry & Sean are great friends and Jerry loves him. What is the source for that claim? Sounds like BS to me.
I remember watching an interview with Jerry about a year ago and they were asking him about Payton and Jerry rolls his eyes and calls him a goofball and it wasn't in a joking manner, it was like please, that guys an idiot. He seemed shocked by Payton's success.
I'm pissed I didn't record the video because Jerry's body language and comments regarding Payton really struck me since he was so dismissive about a coach who had just won the Super Bowl.
Did anyone else see this interview? I was hoping I could find the clip on the net but no luck finding anything.
FWIW, I dont think there is a chance in hell SP comes to Dallas as a coach----hopefully one day as a GM for Steven (Hostile claimed it's possible)
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11-08-2012
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#22
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Bottom Line:
-We dont know what SP or Jerruh are thinking.
-We dont really know what they might or might not be willing to "live with" as far as egos go.
-SP is said to be extremely cocky and has an ego. How does that fit in Dallas?
To sit here and try to add up all the pros and cons, when we dont really know what they are for those guys is nothing more than an exercise in futility.
Better to just sit back and enjoy the pressure it puts on Jerruh and Red J. The pressure is the only thing we know is certain. Its there!
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11-08-2012
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#23
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Do you like movies about Gladiators?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theogt
The thing that excites me is that it's becoming a foregone conclusion that Garrett is gone.
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The end of his process?
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11-09-2012
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#24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncFelix28
Money talks, Payton believes in Romo & has talked very highly of him several times.. Dallas is home...
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This right here... He is actually the reason why Romo is with the Cowboys in the first place, i.e. he was thrilled when Romo was still on the board when they got him and I think reports had him on the table telling the Cowboys to pull the trigger. It was really between the Peyton and Shanny....
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11-09-2012
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yimyammer
I keep reading people claiming Jerry & Sean are great friends and Jerry loves him. What is the source for that claim? Sounds like BS to me.
I remember watching an interview with Jerry about a year ago and they were asking him about Payton and Jerry rolls his eyes and calls him a goofball and it wasn't in a joking manner, it was like please, that guys an idiot. He seemed shocked by Payton's success.
I'm pissed I didn't record the video because Jerry's body language and comments regarding Payton really struck me since he was so dismissive about a coach who had just won the Super Bowl.
Did anyone else see this interview? I was hoping I could find the clip on the net but no luck finding anything.
FWIW, I dont think there is a chance in hell SP comes to Dallas as a coach----hopefully one day as a GM for Steven (Hostile claimed it's possible)
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i havent seen that interview but if jerry did that it only goes to show you what a true football idiot this guy is
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11-09-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Quest for Six
Payton isn't coming to Dallas, Saints have Brees, Cowboys have Romo, who would you rather have as your quarterback...hands down Brees and you wouldn't have to deal with Jerry...
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Isn't Romo in Dallas because of Sean Payton, and didn't Payton try to get Romo in NO before signing Brees?

Don't play dumb with me, I'm better at it than you are.
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11-09-2012
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritsch_the_cat
Isn't Romo in Dallas because of Sean Payton, and didn't Payton try to get Romo in NO before signing Brees?
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Yes, but the end all deciding factor... in NO he doesn't have to deal with Jerry Jones.
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11-09-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rack Bauer
Yes, but the end all deciding factor... in NO he doesn't have to deal with Jerry Jones.
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True but supposedly he will have to deal with Benson's daughter eventually?
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11-09-2012
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rack Bauer
Yes, but the end all deciding factor... in NO he doesn't have to deal with Jerry Jones.
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Agreed. I was just saying I don't think Romo is a deal breaker in the situation, even though I don't think it's going to happen anyway.

Don't play dumb with me, I'm better at it than you are.
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11-09-2012
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pjtoadie
True but supposedly he will have to deal with Benson's daughter eventually?
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Very good point. He may go with what he views as the lesser of two evils and come to Dallas, or he may decide to pick neither and go to KC or somewhere else where he'd have a "Challenge" to compete.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritsch_the_cat
Agreed. I was just saying I don't think Romo is a deal breaker in the situation, even though I don't think it's going to happen anyway.
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Yeah that's true. I'm disappionted in Garrett, but at the same time I know he's young and intelligent so I'm hoping he gets better. I really do think he should have been coordinator for a few years before becoming a HC though.
That said, I'd take Peyton in a heartbeat if he wanted to be in Dallas.
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