What team is 6th in offense & 5th in defense in the NFL? - Page 8 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

**jobberone** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

The 3-5 Cowboys.

Turnovers... penalties... bad special teams.

Add critical drops, negative big plays overall, negative turnovers, and lack of critical third down stops, and loss of field position to the mix and you get 3-5 real easy. In fact I can make a case where we should be much worse than 3-5.

Edit: add poor tackling esp at critical times to the mix as well.

**Idgit** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by jobberone

Add critical drops, negative big plays overall, negative turnovers, and lack of critical third down stops, and loss of field position to the mix and you get 3-5 real easy. In fact I can make a case where we should be much worse than 3-5.

Edit: add poor tackling esp at critical times to the mix as well.

You hear Garrett's pressers this week? In talking about the ATL game, he said he had 8 offensive possessions. Three resulted in points. 3 (I think it was 3) were drives that ended in drops. 1 was a third and 1 we failed to convert on.

**jobberone** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

You hear Garrett's pressers this week? In talking about the ATL game, he said he had 8 offensive possessions. Three resulted in points. 3 (I think it was 3) were drives that ended in drops. 1 was a third and 1 we failed to convert on.

Been a little busy lately but that doesn't surprise me.

TheCount · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

You hear Garrett's pressers this week? In talking about the ATL game, he said he had 8 offensive possessions. Three resulted in points. 3 (I think it was 3) were drives that ended in drops. 1 was a third and 1 we failed to convert on.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Is that Garrett weaseling out of taking any blame for what the offense has become?

**Idgit** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by jobberone

Been a little busy lately but that doesn't surprise me.

It highlights what the opportunity really is. Even in a game when we avoid turnovers completely (thank God), small execution lapses stopped literally half our drives. Maybe you make a case for the 3rd and one, but the drops?

This is why the line between success and failure in the league is *so* think. Maybe it's overall coaching that explains the drops, but when you really look at what's stopping us from putting up points, it's things that are so small and seem to be addressable. I hate to dismantle the team when the things that are getting it beat really do seem to be fixable.

I'm as tired as everyone else of the losing and of the ineptitude. I really am. That doesn't mean that the solution is to blow everything up, as satisfying as that may seem.

Ren · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

I'll tell ya Dave, I would ALMOST use the term "bad luck".

Maybe you could blame luck if this wasn't a continuation of the same mistakes from last year and the year before

6th in offense means very little if we're not scoring

Risen Star · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by percyhoward

Red Zone TD Distribution, 2011 vs. 2012
2011: 25 total TD
Robinson 8
everyone else 17

2012 (projected): 18 total TD
Ogletree 2
everyone else 16

As bad as we've been in the red zone this season, the falloff in red zone production can be traced to a change at one position. The weakness was partially covered up by Romo-to-Robinson last year, but now with Robinson gone, that weakness is completely exposed.

In 64 red zone plays, our RB have scored 2 touchdowns.

The buck stops with percyhoward.

Risen Star · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Ren

Maybe you could blame luck if this wasn't a continuation of the same mistakes from last year and the year before

6th in offense means very little if we're not scoring

Cmon. It's just dang bad luck. These players are oozing with talent. Just check out the completely meaningless yards ranking.

ConstantReboot · 11-10-2012

It all has to do with coaching. Basically, I can't see why we lose so many close games. Is it Garrett's coaching? I feel that it is because somehow we find ways to lose in the mist of victory. There is no ways that we should be 3-5 with top 5 in defense and top 10 in offense.

NextGenBoys · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by theogt

This has been such a frustrating season. This team can play as well as, and beat, any team in the league. And yet they'll always find a way to lose -- by an inch.

Been like that for awhile now, sans 2007.

**MichaelWinicki** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

Cmon. It's just dang bad luck. These players are oozing with talent. Just check out the completely meaningless yards ranking.

You sound bitter.

burmafrd · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

You sound bitter.

just a lot more realistic about things then you clearly are

have to laugh at anyone that thinks those stats you are so proud of mean anything

compared to the simple fact that we are 3-5 and going nowhere

**MichaelWinicki** · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

just a lot more realistic about things then you clearly are

have to laugh at anyone that thinks those stats you are so proud of mean anything

compared to the simple fact that we are 3-5 and going nowhere

Maybe I'll just turn into someone who posts one negative thought after another.

D'oh!

mmillman · 11-10-2012

which team is near the bottom in points scored?
Which team is near the bottom in turnover ratio?
Which team is near the top in penalties for the umpteenth year running?
Which team doesn't have a football guy as GM?

TheCount · 11-10-2012

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Originally Posted by mmillman

which team is near the bottom in points scored?
Which team is near the bottom in turnover ratio?
Which team is near the top in penalties for the umpteenth year running?
Which team doesn't have a football guy as GM?

The Falcons?