An Example of Garrett's Playcall - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Gaede · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Doomsday101

The play in the video is wide open to convert the 1st down it comes down to making the play. It is great that fans would call a different play but in the end any play you call has to be executed.

It's true. I usually don't harp on Garrett for his playcalling, because it's pretty difficult to understand what's going on, and it's ridiculously easy (read: lazy) to say what would've worked better in hindsight.

I would like to know, however, why Garrett continues to plug stupid players into an offense that requires smart ones. Why'd we get rid of the guys who could adjust and run the right routes? And go with a group of mental midgets instead? Is Jerry making these personnel decisions? If yes, why does Garrett allow that?

This offense clearly requires players who are smart and can think on their feet. Why doesn't he surround his QB with players like that?

CowboysFaninDC · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

I love seeing stuff like this. Much needed perspective for my daily Garrett-hating.

Real info.

I'd love to see what this offense would be capable of with Austin, and two other WR who know what they're doing. Why'd we get rid of Crayton? Robinson? Two WR who were productive here because they were smart. Bryant and Ogletree must severely handicap what we want to do. Romo missing easy passes doesn't help either. His accuracy has been pretty spotty this year.

Wonder if Garrett's offense would be better w/ a more accurate passer and at least one more capable receiver?

where is crayton these days? just because he was a decent 3rd WR long ago, doesn't make him so today.

Robinson took the money. Jerry wasn't willing to pay him the kind of money he was looking for.

and its funny to read the garrett hating, yet people complain about the players. is it garrett? or the players?

CowboysFaninDC · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

It's true. I usually don't harp on Garrett for his playcalling, because it's pretty difficult to understand what's going on, and it's ridiculously easy (read: lazy) to say what would've worked better in hindsight.

I would like to know, however, why Garrett continues to plug stupid players into an offense that requires smart ones. Why'd we get rid of the guys who could adjust and run the right routes? And go with a group of mental midgets instead? Is Jerry making these personnel decisions? If yes, why does Garrett allow that?

This offense clearly requires players who are smart and can think on their feet. Why doesn't he surround his QB with players like that?

where do you get smarter players? he is playing the hand he is dealt.

Gaede · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by CowboysFaninDC

where do you get smarter players? he is playing the hand he is dealt.

We had smarter players. Your post above mentioned Crayton and where is he today? Who cares? While he was here, he was good. And extremely useful when the opponent blitzed.

Robinson, likewise, gave us speed and dependability. And production!

We've had these guys and let them go. Yeah Robinson wanted starters money. But if this offense's success absolutely depends on their WRs, why in the hell did we go with Bryant and Ogletree (knowing full well that these guys take the short bus)

Dave_in-NC · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

We had smarter players. Your post above mentioned Crayton and where is he today? Who cares? While he was here, he was good. And extremely useful when the opponent blitzed.

Robinson, likewise, gave us speed and dependability. And production!

We've had these guys and let them go. Yeah Robinson wanted starters money. But if this offense's success absolutely depends on their WRs, why in the hell did we go with Bryant and Ogletree (knowing full well that these guys take the short bus)

Jerry should have absolutely found a way to keep Robinson. Ogletree should have been hitting the bricks.

**Idgit** · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Doomsday101

You can go on and on about playcall but it comes down to execution. The play in the video is wide open to convert the 1st down it comes down to making the play. It is great that fans would call a different play but in the end any play you call has to be executed.

This is exactly right. There are two open players on that particular play who were open and behind the sticks. This isn't an example of players being dumb, and it's not an example of bad play calling.

Doomsday101 · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

It's true. I usually don't harp on Garrett for his playcalling, because it's pretty difficult to understand what's going on, and it's ridiculously easy (read: lazy) to say what would've worked better in hindsight.

I would like to know, however, why Garrett continues to plug stupid players into an offense that requires smart ones. Why'd we get rid of the guys who could adjust and run the right routes? And go with a group of mental midgets instead? Is Jerry making these personnel decisions? If yes, why does Garrett allow that?

This offense clearly requires players who are smart and can think on their feet. Why doesn't he surround his QB with players like that?

I think it is bit more than that, it is not that they don't know the rout often they fail to make the proper adjustment on the sight routs and being on the same page as Romo based on the defensive coverage they face when they get up to the line. I also do not think jerry is doing anything but paying the damn bills. This crap of blaming Jerry give me a break Jason want to call the plays he calls the plays Jerry is not making him do anything Jerry is giving Garrett the room to do the job. If Garrett fails then it is on Garrett

Gaede · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

This is exactly right. There are two open players on that particular play who were open and behind the sticks. This isn't an example of players being dumb, and it's not an example of bad play calling.

I was just generally speaking, not regarding this play in particular

Doomsday101 · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

This is exactly right. There are two open players on that particular play who were open and behind the sticks. This isn't an example of players being dumb, and it's not an example of bad play calling.

Exactly, on the play Romo kills the run play goes to the pass. The play works if you execute it there are open targets on the play. Had we ran and got stuffed behind the line since NY was stacked inside that would have been the wrong move for Romo. The play was there for the taking but you have to execute the play. It is not that fricken hard to understand. However as soon as a play fails the same parrots holler oh it was poor play calling as if they had a clue

Risen Star · 11-13-2012

Y Duznt Teh Garetz Runn Therre!!1!

Risen Star · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by e41dalasfan

If it 2nd and 1 why not just run the ball?

Well, I don't know. If we burn them on a long pass play in that situation because the QB read the defense correctly, would you be asking why we didn't just run the ball on 2nd and 1?

Doomsday101 · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

Well, I don't know. If we burn them on a long pass play in that situation because the QB read the defense correctly, would you be asking why we didn't just run the ball on 2nd and 1?

I actually like throwing the ball deep on 2nd and 1 it is like taking a free shot knowing you have a manageable 3rd down should you not connect on the deep ball.

cowboys102030 · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

I love seeing stuff like this. Much needed perspective for my daily Garrett-hating.

Real info.

I'd love to see what this offense would be capable of with Austin, and two other WR who know what they're doing. Why'd we get rid of Crayton? Robinson? Two WR who were productive here because they were smart. Bryant and Ogletree must severely handicap what we want to do. Romo missing easy passes doesn't help either. His accuracy has been pretty spotty this year.

Wonder if Garrett's offense would be better w/ a more accurate passer and at least one more capable receiver?

Crayton was an arrogant idiot that dropped the game winning touchdown pass against the Giants in the playoffs. He was wide the hell open, free, and if he simply caught it, the Cowboys would go up two scores in the 4th quarter. Thank god that trash is gone.

Risen Star · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I actually like throwing the ball deep on 2nd and 1 it is like taking a free shot knowing you have a manageable 3rd down should you not connect on the deep ball.

I do too. 2nd and 1 is a great time to take a chance down the field.

Gaede · 11-13-2012

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Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I actually like throwing the ball deep on 2nd and 1 it is like taking a free shot knowing you have a manageable 3rd down should you not connect on the deep ball.

I like it too. It's a great idea to take a shot when you've only a little to go on 3rd. This team can pick up short yardage 3rd downs pretty well--between Witten and Austin.