Tony Romo on Dez Bryant coming full circle; why Laurent Robinson was successful with

[Oh_Canada]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Tony says Dez is making the right reads and running the correct routes..

..and we still get a thread full of people creating fables about how they see Dez doing all this stuff wrong.

Because, you know.. they bought the All 22 package watch the tape now, so they know.. they know.

Yup, it's like everyone forgot about the last paragraph where the QB says the WR is coming around on his route running and almost 100% now. They also missed the part where he is on pace for an 80 catch 1000+ yd season, an improvement every year.

[Oh_Canada]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Tony said he's not a 100% yet but he's close and he's getting there.

You can believe what you want but when Bryant runs a sloppy route that results in an INT and the QB pulls him aside on the sideline to have words with him, along with the position coach, and the head coach it's a problem.

The bigger issue here is that Bryant ran this same exact route to perfection in the first game but in the second game totally brain farts the same play call.

Here's the playcall from game 1:



Here's the same playcall from game 2:

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Game 1:



Game 2:




Dez is already late on his break and is past the sticks, where he should have made the break initially to cross the S.

Game 1:



Game 2:





Fables huh?

Nice diagram....except that you failed to mention the safety was playing a good three to four yards further back in NY than he was in Dallas when Bryant made the break...three yards in the NFL is the difference between a completion and a pick. Bryant ran a poor route, but that play had no chance of being completed no matter how he ran it.

[Doomsday101]

Dez is not where I would like him to be at this stage but I still think Dez will continue to develop into a top WR. He has the skills and I think he is developing the desire. In college you can get by with just raw talent in the pros you need to refine your skills

[Denim Chicken]

Dez is most definitely improving as a player. If you can’t see it on the field (I can); then check his numbers year over year—they are headed in the right direction.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

Dez is most definitely improving as a player. If you can’t see it on the field (I can); then check his numbers year over year—they are headed in the right direction.

I agree. I think to take that next step he has to show he can be that go to guy in critical situations and make the big play. That was the one thing with Drew Pearson and Michale Irvin at critical moments they would make the big play and when all is said and done most remember those clutch plays over the stats.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I agree. I think to take that next step he has to show he can be that go to guy in critical situations and make the big play. That was the one thing with Drew Pearson and Michale Irvin at critical moments they would make the big play and when all is said and done most remember those clutch plays over the stats.

Yep, and a bunch of TDs wouldn't hurt either.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Denim Chicken

Yep, and a bunch of TDs wouldn't hurt either.

True but then you look at irvin how often did he make the catch down by the goal line and Emmitt got the TD. I would just like to see Dez become that guy Romo looks to in the clutch and makes the play.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Tony said he's not a 100% yet but he's close and he's getting there.

You can believe what you want but when Bryant runs a sloppy route that results in an INT and the QB pulls him aside on the sideline to have words with him, along with the position coach, and the head coach it's a problem.

The bigger issue here is that Bryant ran this same exact route to perfection in the first game but in the second game totally brain farts the same play call.

Here's the playcall from game 1:



Here's the same playcall from game 2:

[View Full Quote]

Game 1:



Game 2:




Dez is already late on his break and is past the sticks, where he should have made the break initially to cross the S.

Game 1:



Game 2:





Fables huh?

Whatever your take on the actual route, this is just great football stuff. Even you guys who don't agree with him, should recognize that, because it's what these threads should be about.

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

So we agree.. Tony said Dez is doing it right almost 100 percent of the time this year.

My argument isn't that Dez occasionally runs a bad route.. every receiver in the NFL does.

My problem are those who continue to act like they know something the rest of us don't, and try to say that Dez constantly runs bad routes, is a bad route runner, is always messing up and causing Tony to make bad throws, etc, etc..

Its baloney..

The two 'scouts' I've heard on the topic--one being couchscout and the other Randy Galloway's stupid anonymous scout--said that Dez blows a route or an adjustment 2-3 times/game. It's never been about botching every route. It's always been about the bad plays unraveling a lot of good plays. This is why posters tend to love Dez, but also be very frustrated with him. At the end of the day, though, if he runs 20 bad routes and the 21st is the play that gets you consistently beat, what does it matter?

Originally Posted by Oh_Canada

Nice diagram....except that you failed to mention the safety was playing a good three to four yards further back in NY than he was in Dallas when Bryant made the break...three yards in the NFL is the difference between a completion and a pick. Bryant ran a poor route, but that play had no chance of being completed no matter how he ran it.

He runs that route properly, and it's a catch. Absolutely. It would have been contested, but it's a ball we've completed many times.

[Boys122]

Not sure if this was said or not, but Robinson pretty much knew the offense through Norv and that explains why he was in the right spot at the right time.



Plus, Robinson seems pretty bright, Dez, not so much.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Boys122

Not sure if this was said or not, but Robinson pretty much knew the offense through Norv and that explains why he was in the right spot at the right time.

Plus, Robinson seems pretty bright, Dez, not so much.

Tony was very complimentary of Robinson, but--and this is just my opinion--he was also protecting his current WR group. He was very complimentary of Dez, and also said that the other young guys coming up were doing a great job of being where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there.

I will say, we've done a great job of not turning the ball over in the passing game the last two weeks. All of this back and forth is moot if we can keep it up. And it looks to me like the plan is to keep giving snaps to Harris and Beasley going forward as long as they can make the plays. I'm pretty psyched to see what happens.

[Boys122]

Originally Posted by Idgit

Tony was very complimentary of Robinson, but--and this is just my opinion--he was also protecting his current WR group. He was very complimentary of Dez, and also said that the other young guys coming up were doing a great job of being where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there.

I will say, we've done a great job of not turning the ball over in the passing game the last two weeks. All of this back and forth is moot if we can keep it up. And it looks to me like the plan is to keep giving snaps to Harris and Beasley going forward as long as they can make the plays. I'm pretty psyched to see what happens.

You'd think Dez would have figured it out by now, ya know? I'm still pulling for him.

At this point of the season the chemistry between Tony and Dez for example shouldn't be an issue. The other wr's seem to be on track.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Boys122

You'd think Dez would have figured it out by now, ya know? I'm still pulling for him.

At this point of the season the chemistry between Tony and Dez for example shouldn't be an issue. The other wr's seem to be on track.

What I liked to hear in the interview (it's a great interview, btw, for anyone who hasn't heard it yet) was Tony's opinion that on the plays were Dez isn't targeted, he's usually doing the right things, too. Clearly, in previous tape sessions, it was apparent that that wasn't always the case.

So I think the guy's progressing. He's on pace for 80 balls and more than 1000 yards, so it obviously isn't all bad. I think if we were in a situation where we had another WR who was always reliable, we'd hardly be talking about Dez's mistakes, honestly. It's just that they get magnified when there aren't three legitimate WR options on a route. I bet, for example, if, say, Beasley's able to contribute consistently, we'll see a lot more big plays from Dez and Tony able to take fewer gambles in his direction in situations where he's not 100% sure Dez will be where he's supposed to be.

[Boys122]

Originally Posted by Idgit

What I liked to hear in the interview (it's a great interview, btw, for anyone who hasn't heard it yet) was Tony's opinion that on the plays were Dez isn't targeted, he's usually doing the right things, too. Clearly, in previous tape sessions, it was apparent that that wasn't always the case.

So I think the guy's progressing. He's on pace for 80 balls and more than 1000 yards, so it obviously isn't all bad. I think if we were in a situation where we had another WR who was always reliable, we'd hardly be talking about Dez's mistakes, honestly. It's just that they get magnified when there aren't three legitimate WR options on a route. I bet, for example, if, say, Beasley's able to contribute consistently, we'll see a lot more big plays from Dez and Tony able to take fewer gambles in his direction in situations where he's not 100% sure Dez will be where he's supposed to be.

I hope you're right, I just keep waiting for Dez to have a breakout game with 7 to 10 catches for 140 yards and a couple touchdowns.

I also understand our offense is designed to not always count on the same receiver to have big games. That could be it as well with the chemistry part.

[WoodysGirl]

Originally Posted by Boys122

I hope you're right, I just keep waiting for Dez to have a breakout game with 7 to 10 catches for 140 yards and a couple touchdowns.

I also understand our offense is designed to not always count on the same receiver to have big games. That could be it as well with the chemistry part.

Just something to think about because it does somehow gets overlooked due to his mistakes.

But numbers-wise, he's had some pretty good games all year. You want him to have a breakout game, of 7-10 catches, 140 yards. In the B-more game, he had 13 catches, 95 yards and 2 TDs.

2nd Giants game, he had 5 catches, 110 yards. 0 TDs, but he had 2 fumbles and the missed route, I believe.

In Philly, he had 3 catches for 87 yards and a TD.

So he's not having a *bad* year per se, but it's just inconsistent from game to game.

[Boys122]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Just something to think about because it does somehow gets overlooked due to his mistakes.

But numbers-wise, he's had some pretty good games all year. You want him to have a breakout game, of 7-10 catches, 140 yards. In the B-more game, he had 13 catches, 95 yards and 2 TDs.

2nd Giants game, he had 5 catches, 110 yards. 0 TDs, but he had 2 fumbles and the missed route, I believe.

In Philly, he had 3 catches for 87 yards and a TD.

So he's not having a *bad* year per se, but it's just inconsistent from game to game.

Right, I guess I'm just being greedy.