Is Mike Jenkins protecting himself? - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Bluestang · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by AbeBeta

I sincerely doubt that he is not playing so that he can get some mid-range contract when solid play -- really the level of play that he is capable of -- would bring a huge payday. He doesn't even have to cover a teams #1. I doubt very much that he is simply playing it safe to get that OK deal when he could get a giant one.

Oh yeah, Bern didn't get a giant contract. 4 years 11 mill is a very small deal. Even if he ended up as our C-G top backup, that wouldn't be a terrible deal

Nate Livings is only guaranteed $6.2M so if Dallas wanted to part ways with him it wouldn't be a detriment to the cap at all.

The way both players' contracts are structured is that they receive more money as they stay on the team, or in other words they are proving worthy to be on the roster.

Bluestang · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by erod

Did you see what Jerry paid Bernadeau and Livings? Unaccomplished players, and neither plays cornerback.

Corners get paid, and Jenkins has shown enough to interest multiple teams in desperate need of corners. Then, it's a bidding war.

Jenkins' body of work will not get him a big money contract and anyone who thinks so has vastly over rated his skills.

He is a huge risk because of that Baltimore game when he re-injured his shoulder.

I'm willing to bet that he will get a 1 year "prove-it" deal or similar contract from a team willing to put some risk into him.

jnday · 11-15-2012

Dallas should have took the trade offer. Jenkins has had an attitude since the Carr signing. He is not a factor on the field and doesn't want to be a Cowboy.

The Natural · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Jenkins' body of work will not get him a big money contract and anyone who thinks so has vastly over rated his skills.

He is a huge risk because of that Baltimore game when he re-injured his shoulder.

I'm willing to bet that he will get a 1 year "prove-it" deal or similar contract from a team willing to put some risk into him.

I've bookmarked this thread and I will up when free agency starts, what would you like to bet again?

bbailey423 · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Jenkins' body of work will not get him a big money contract and anyone who thinks so has vastly over rated his skills.

He is a huge risk because of that Baltimore game when he re-injured his shoulder.

I'm willing to bet that he will get a 1 year "prove-it" deal or similar contract from a team willing to put some risk into him.

Do the Redskins have 1....1....CB that is better than him. He may do that....like Carlos Rogers did....and it worked out. Same thing Bennett did. He will get more next year...than he was ever going to earn in Dallas. But it is kind of hard to really showcase what you can do when you are not a starter. And he lost his starting job before mini camps started. He lost his starting job once carr and claiborned where on the team. So Jenkins was only going to show what he can do if someone got hurt. Well neither of those guys are hurt. So Jenkins needs to make it to free agency healthy. He cannot afford to have to be recovering from off season surgery when free agency starts. How can ANYONE blame him?

Proximo · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by The Natural

I've bookmarked this thread and I will up when free agency starts, what would you like to bet again?

Jenkins is definitely getting paid in the offseason. It won't be by Dallas, but some other poor team in desperate need will compensate him. Cover corners are at a premium in this league, and teams ALWAYS overpay in the offseason. I'm not saying he'll get what we gave Carr, but he'll get paid.

Carl23 · 11-15-2012

Anyone that has ever had back spasms would tell you that recovery times are erratic, at best. I've been stuck in a bed and/or on a couch for 10 days and I've been up and about in 2 days. It all depends on how many muscles lock and how many want to be stubborn.

I will say that steroids help (at least in my 3x/year case).

**MichaelWinicki** · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Jenkins' body of work will not get him a big money contract and anyone who thinks so has vastly over rated his skills.

He is a huge risk because of that Baltimore game when he re-injured his shoulder.

I'm willing to bet that he will get a 1 year "prove-it" deal or similar contract from a team willing to put some risk into him.

This.

TheCount · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Cowboys22

Sorry, but I think this is 100% wrong. Jenkins does not have the reputation that will command big dollars. He has been replaced with a rookie and has a history of inconsistent play to say the least. If ever there was a player that needed ever second of playing time he could get, it's Mike Jenkins. If the rest of the season goes the same way, he will little to no interest in him especially for big dollars. Now, maybe he is so stupid not to realize this but I doubt it.

None if that will matter if he ruins his shoulder.

Forget a big contract, he'll get nothing if he has to spend next year rehabbing the same shoulder.

AbeBeta · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Nate Livings is only guaranteed $6.2M so if Dallas wanted to part ways with him it wouldn't be a detriment to the cap at all.

The way both players' contracts are structured is that they receive more money as they stay on the team, or in other words they are proving worthy to be on the roster.

That it is pretty much how we structure every deal -- most of the longer term ones are going to have a sort of "break even" point, often after the third year, where the cap hit for cutting the guy is a wash with the salary savings. Bern's break even point is after one year. Livings is after his third year -- but his increased salaries in his final two years suggest that we'd likely renegotiate the deal or cut him at that point

Both were pretty low money deals in reality. Not that 99% of the folks on the board understand that at all.

Clove · 11-15-2012

I think Jenkins is one of the best cover corners on this team, probably better than Carr as well. I would ditch Scandrick, drop all the funds on Jenkins, or trade him and try to get a stud opposite Ware.

**MichaelWinicki** · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by Clove

I think Jenkins is one of the best cover corners on this team, probably better than Carr as well. I would ditch Scandrick, drop all the funds on Jenkins, or trade him and try to get a stud opposite Ware.

Trading deadline is past so that's a non-starter.

Jenkins has always been a malcontent for whatever reason. I don't know if it's because of his attitude or what, but there's something going on.

Bigdog24 · 11-15-2012

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Trading deadline is past so that's a non-starter.

Jenkins has always been a malcontent for whatever reason. I don't know if it's because of his attitude or what, but there's something going on.

Bottom line...Jenkins will go they way the Cowboys go....If they lose miserably he will get a mid veteran FA offer....if the Cowboys somehow run the tables and win it all.....the offer will only go up......My bet is Jenkins is playing the odds and playing it safe to protect what little leverage he has.... Say la Vee Mr. Jenkins.

BraveHeartFan · 11-15-2012

I seriously doubt this, that's just me personally, but even if he was then I think that he's really only helping the Cowboys keep him long term because the more and more he sits the less money he's going to be able to get on the open market.

Which allows Dallas to keep him here at a cheaper price and while a lot of people hate him, for whatever their reasons are, he's a pretty solid corner who I definately wouldn't mind keeping around for a fair price.