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Old 11-16-2012   #31
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Yeah, because if he does they can still charge him with assault because the statute of limitations runs for 2 years. So they have that long to charge him. Not that it'd hold much water if they did at that point though. But still...
The statute of limitations isn't an issue here.
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Old 11-16-2012   #32
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That's the job of the police and the DA. You can clearly see from their actions that they do believe the mom's story. That isn't acting if as if I know what occurred -- it is using simple LOGIC to draw a conclusion.
oh, I'm sorry, I forgot about the fact that if the police and DA think you did something, that AUTOMATICALLY means that you are guilty. my bad.....
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Old 11-16-2012   #33
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Pretty much the best explanation is always the simplest.

His mom called the cops. They found her complaint credible. So did the DA. He is assigned to diversion as his punishment.

Now isn't that simpler than some crazy "she made it up as part of a shakedown" theory?
There is a lot more to the story. There isn't a "simplest" explanation for this situation...
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Old 11-16-2012   #34
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Personally, I'm so tired of this story, but one thing I thought was interesting on the topic: Dez was asked, now that a deal had been reached, how much of a distraction this off the field stuff was, and he replied that it, frankly, was a bit distracting and that he's happy to be back on the field and able to focus on football. Exactly what you'd expect him to say in the circumstance, but, coupled with being removed from the return game, I wonder if we're going to see an improvement in Dez's technique at the WR position. It'd be a nice lift to the team right now if this helps him focus better on the little things that have kept him from being a player you have to game plan around here early in the season.
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Old 11-16-2012   #35
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There is a lot more to the story. There isn't a "simplest" explanation for this situation...
That's more about you fantasizing other aspects.

But let's play. What "more" could there be? His mom asked for money for drugs? If so and Dez laid hands on her, it is still a crime.
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You mean the crackhead?
You can be a crackhead and still be the victim of a crime. The police and DA's office likely have considerable experience dealing with crackheads and other less than credible people. That they found the evidence and her story compelling means that it did not set off their BS detectors.
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That's more about you fantasizing other aspects.

But let's play. What "more" could there be? His mom asked for money for drugs? If so and Dez laid hands on her, it is still a crime.
This is why people don't go out on a limb around here... too much condescending rhetoric from posters...

I happen to be from Lufkin and know people close to the situation, that's as far as I am going...

I'm not "fantasizing" about anything and your "more" assumptions aren't even close...

Just because you find it amusing to talk down to people like they are know-nothing arses, doesn't shield you from actually being one...

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This is why people don't go out on a limb around here... too much condescending rhetoric from posters...

I happen to be from Lufkin and know people close to the situation, that's as far as I am going...

I'm not "fantasizing" about anything and your "more" assumptions aren't even close...

Just because you find it amusing to talk down to people like they are no-nothing arses, doesn't shield you from actually being one...
Oh boy another "I know a guy who knows a guy" stuff. Come with facts 'blue, not the old "I know better but won't tell you"
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Yeah we call it a pre-trial diversion here where I practice. I suspect that's what it's called in Dallas, but it could be something different. And I think if Dez were convicted he would likely get a term of probation. The only difference is he doesn't have to go into court and say he's guilty or go through a trial, assuming he holds up his end of the deal.
So let me be a little more direct here. Is this generally the sort of deal that someone who feels they can avoid conviction in a trial takes? I realize that not all cases are the same - but give me a general answer.
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Oh boy another "I know a guy who knows a guy" stuff. Come with facts 'blue, not the old "I know better but won't tell you"
Exactly what I mean... and, no, I won't...
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So let me be a little more direct here. Is this generally the sort of deal that someone who feels they can avoid conviction in a trial takes? I realize that not all cases are the same - but give me a general answer.
Generally, in my experience, this is the best "deal" you can get without an outright dismissal, which is pretty rare.

Trials are unpredictable. When you get a deal like this that doesn't require a plea, and ends up in a dismissal if you are a good boy, a trial is an unnecessary risk. Much less risk in committing to keeping your nose clean for a year than to have a panel of jurors and a judge who may be in a bad mood decide your fate. That's not to mention the publicity that this specific case would get.

Also, DAs usually don't offer these types of deals to habitual offenders who aren't able to live up to the terms.
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This is why people don't go out on a limb around here... too much condescending rhetoric from posters...

I happen to be from Lufkin and know people close to the situation, that's as far as I am going...

I'm not "fantasizing" about anything and your "more" assumptions aren't even close...

Just because you find it amusing to talk down to people like they are no-nothing arses, doesn't shield you from actually being one...
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Exactly what I mean... and, no, I won't...
The old "I've got a secret" game gets old Tricky.
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Just because you find it amusing to talk down to people like they are know-nothing arses, doesn't shield you from actually being one...

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The old "I've got a secret" game gets old Tricky.
Since the start of this board I've had about 2 or 3 of those... and they were all true... that's about 1 every 3-4 years...

I apparently don't have much game in that respect...
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