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11-19-2012
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Originally Posted by Idgit
Our first two drives today were derailed by a WR making the wrong route adjustment and by a first-down holding penalty on the second drive.
I want to see Dwayne Harris at WR3 next week. I'm tired of the miscues.
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This.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
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11-19-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by mldardy
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
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well in the real world where there are good coaches they would have a game plan that worked in the first half
I know that is hard for some people to comprehend
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11-19-2012
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#18
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THE BIG DOG
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Originally Posted by BoysFan4ever
He goes into the locker room at halftime? Geez.
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Socks to the jocks.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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11-19-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by RS12
“I was here in the locker room at halftime...”
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That's the problem! Jimmy would've kicked his *** out! 
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11-19-2012
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#20
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While some adjustments were made at half-time, we won in large part due to poor play by the Browns. When your opposition commits 12 penalties, you should be beating them. Buster Skrine and Sheldon Brown should have been arrested for mugging. Make no mistake, this was not a good football game. We should not be playing down to a poorer team.
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11-19-2012
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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We were only down 13 points at half time. If they adjustments "Worked like a charm" we wouldn't have gone to overtime.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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11-19-2012
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#22
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Originally Posted by Idgit
Our first two drives today were derailed by a WR making the wrong route adjustment and by a first-down holding penalty on the second drive.
I want to see Dwayne Harris at WR3 next week. I'm tired of the miscues.
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Just knowing how many times there has been miscommunication between QB and receiver has me wondering if this is some sort of systemic problem, rather than just having the dumbest receivers in the league?
It sounds like both QB and receiver have to be on the same page -- if they see things differently, they run something other than what the QB is expecting, often leading to horrifying (i.e. pick sixes or momentum killing interceptions) results. How subjective are these reads? Because if there is a lot of room for interpretation, it makes perfect sense that these reads wouldn't always align. Almost like there is TOO much flexibility in what the receivers are allowed to do. And quite frankly, if they're reading what the guy across from them is doing, along with trying to see what the safeties are doing -- just seems like a lot to worry about when you're trying to run crisp routes and get open.
I just see way too much second guessing out there and it's preventing our players from playing fast.
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11-19-2012
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#23
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
We were only down 13 points at half time. If they adjustments "Worked like a charm" we wouldn't have gone to overtime.
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Dude, coming back from 13 points downs after the utter futility of the offense in the first half was akin to climbing Mt. Everest.
I still can't believe we won that game. Just a tremendous comeback against a very spirited Browns team -- these are season saving types of games.
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11-19-2012
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#24
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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Originally Posted by cowboys2233
Dude, coming back from 13 points downs after the utter futility of the offense in the first half was akin to climbing Mt. Everest.
I still can't believe we won that game. Just a tremendous comeback against a very spirited Browns team -- these are season saving types of games.
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Talent and organization trumps "spirit" every time. This was a poor team we played and a struggling rookie QB.
So, dude, don't give me that this was some kind of Lombardi like job that Ryan and Garrett pulled off. Now if it have been a top team and we did this, then yes, I would give more credit but obviously it wasn't.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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11-19-2012
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#25
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
Talent and organization trumps "spirit" every time. This was a poor team we played and a struggling rookie QB.
So, dude, don't give me that this was some kind of Lombardi like job that Ryan and Garrett pulled off. Now if it have been a top team and we did this, then yes, I would give more credit but obviously it wasn't.
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What if Dez's finger had been an inch shorter and we wound up beating the defending SB champs after being down 23-0? Would that have been Lombardi like?
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11-19-2012
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#26
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
With each week it seems Jerry is going more and more into salesman mode about his coach.
Like there are people who's concerns would be put to rest by such an endorsement.
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This right here.... If jerry is making statements about how this team adjusted at half-time, you can be damn sure everybody was laughing just at hpw pathetic a job Jason was actually doing prior and how he doesn't shorten the routes. Hip-hip hooray that Jason did what any coach with a half-a-brain, let alone one being paid five million a year, would have done.
I didn't watch the game until the end, but I heard we were gifted a few PI calls as well.
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11-19-2012
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#27
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The Instant Classic
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Originally Posted by cowboys2233
Just knowing how many times there has been miscommunication between QB and receiver has me wondering if this is some sort of systemic problem, rather than just having the dumbest receivers in the league?
It sounds like both QB and receiver have to be on the same page -- if they see things differently, they run something other than what the QB is expecting, often leading to horrifying (i.e. pick sixes or momentum killing interceptions) results. How subjective are these reads? Because if there is a lot of room for interpretation, it makes perfect sense that these reads wouldn't always align. Almost like there is TOO much flexibility in what the receivers are allowed to do. And quite frankly, if they're reading what the guy across from them is doing, along with trying to see what the safeties are doing -- just seems like a lot to worry about when you're trying to run crisp routes and get open.
[View Full Quote]I just see way too much second guessing out there and it's preventing our players from playing fast.
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Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
You can also tell when Romo stopped forcing to Dez and KO. The TO problem cleared up pretty dramatically. I think, if we're going to fault anything here, it's in not getting the right players to be successful here. KO's been on this roster, what, 4 years now? Ridiculous. He can't cut it, and, if we were betting on someone else stepping up, we crapped out so far. We should have brought in some insurance at the beginning of the season.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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11-19-2012
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#28
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Originally Posted by Idgit
Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
You can also tell when Romo stopped forcing to Dez and KO. The TO problem cleared up pretty dramatically. I think, if we're going to fault anything here, it's in not getting the right players to be successful here. KO's been on this roster, what, 4 years now? Ridiculous. He can't cut it, and, if we were betting on someone else stepping up, we crapped out so far. We should have brought in some insurance at the beginning of the season.
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I agree with every thing except the bold part. I think they just aren't giving Harris or Beasley a chance for what ever reason. I really can't see how either could be any worse. Harris really seems to know what's going on.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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11-19-2012
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
Being able to adjust on the fly, mentally, is every bit as much of a skill as doing it physically. Just seeing how Romo connected with Robinson--with just one abbreviated offseason--convinced me that the issue probably isn't with the QB or the system, necessarily. Harris, too, seems to get it. And Witten, and Miles.
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Yeah, you're probably right (although Miles also seems to disappear a lot more than he should, given his talent). But it seems like the team should be able to come up with something, recognizing the stupidity of KO and DB. Instead of having them analyze the defense (which they are clearly incapable of doing), give them set routes to run, no matter what the defensive alignment is. That way, they no longer have to worry about interpreting things correctly -- they run what they're supposed to run and then the onus is put on Romo's shoulders. He knows what set route they have, if he sees that the defense will give that up, great, keep the play as is. If not, maybe come up with an audible that changes the pattern but one that is still set in stone, not allowing the receiver to change based on what he thinks he sees.
The point is, Dez is physically capable of beating ANY one on one coverage and Ogletree is quick enough to get open the majority of the time. Only their minds are holding them back. So take their minds out of the equation.
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"I'm not a diva, I'm too rough to be a diva. Hate that word. There's nothing diva about me." -- Dez Bryant
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11-19-2012
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#30
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Lightning Rod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mldardy
That's what a good coach does when the game plan isn't working they make adjustments. Would you rather the coaches not make adjustments at all and stick with the same ****ty game plan. People like you can't be happen about anything.
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You missed his point. Garrett's teams never seem ready to play, not sure why that is.
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