Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Main Forums > Fan Zone

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

Reply
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 11-19-2012   #1
TwoDeep3
Senior Member
 
TwoDeep3's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
3,852
Default The Process, Romo, and Father Time

The evolution of this board this season has been entertaining, to say the least. As we trundle off into the future, the internet has become so much of the Cowboy and NFL experience, it has changed the dynamics of watching this sport.

Gone are the days of reading every newspaper and waiting for Sports Illustrated, which was always a week behind. There is a lot less chatting around the water cooler, and a lot more digitally arguing with people you couldn't pick out of a photo.

So when one side of the yin and yang coin has now morphed into accepting what is being displayed on the field and finding it something to cheer about, it makes me wonder.

Bottom line is this.

The Process means there could be more years, and that is multiple, of waiting for a return to being relevant. As Opie stumbles through his day trying to figure out his job, we watch and wait, some more patiently than others.

This is why I am anxious, and no amount of "don't care, we won," will soothe my angst.

Father Time is walking behind Romo in a race that Romo will not win.

Is this season an aberration?

Maybe. Certainly that display of taking the team on his shoulders and winning the game yesterday was just like so many we've seen over the Romo tenure.

But the first half was littered with miscues, and not all of them were the fault of the WR's. Romo was sailing passes, throwing short, and as accurate as a game of horseshoes.

So I'm just posing this question.

What if this is the first signs of his decline? Subtle, almost unnoticeable, but to be sure the beginning of the end.

Now think on that, and factor in The Process.

Because none of us truly know when Jerry will pull his head out and make a move to fix the offensive line, or get another great receiver to move Austin to the slot where he belongs.

Or Opie puts together a game plan that keeps the defense reeling because they cannot figure it out.

As much as we argue over what we see now, and its importance, there is one thing that is not static in this argument.

Romo is aging. And that is supremely significant.

Witten is aging. Not as big a deal, but a big deal nonetheless.

How much time does the team truly have factoring in the snail's pace of The Process versus Father Time?

So when you are pleased with a team that is consistently mediocre, how long will it stay even at that level when the eye of the storm is growing a long gray beard before our eyes?

Something to ponder that has zip to do with the Rosebud attitude or the Negative attitude.
You've been weighed

You've been measured

And you've been found to be a casual fan
TwoDeep3 is online now   Reply With Quote

Old 11-19-2012   #2
Bluestang
Senior Member
 
Bluestang's Avatar
 
Joined:
May 2009
Location:
Idaho
Posts:
4,729
Default

This is a good point because I have recorded at least 7 times that Romo has missed on a TD pass, where the protection was fine and he simply overthrew his target.

That's 42 pts off the scoreboard there.

Nothing would make me more happy than to see Romo, Witten, and Ware get a SB ring but I've not in favor of trying to make this a short-term team.

We are adding good, young talent and when the "changing of the guard" begins to happen having the right pieces in place will aid the team in being competitive every season.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
Bluestang is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #3
superpunk
Senior Member
 
superpunk's Avatar
Years Donated
2007
 
Joined:
Oct 2005
Location:
South O
Posts:
26,136
Default

It's entirely possible he's shellshocked.

He gets hit once every how many dropbacks? He's had a full season of the imbeciles around him not being smart enough to run the right routes, get lined up onsides, make the right line calls, and in the case of the Oline not physical enough to protect him even if they "execute" the play correctly.
superpunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #4
Gemini Dolly
Senior Member
 
Gemini Dolly's Avatar
 
Joined:
Nov 2007
Location:
TeXas
Posts:
5,311
Default

Ron Jaworski on Tony Romo post-game press conference: "If I wasn't hearing the sound, I would've said, 'Boy, there's a beaten quarterback.'"

Ron Jaworksi: Tony Romo "is a guy right now that is lacking confidence." With play calling and execution, Romo's "at an all-time low."


Gemini Dolly's twitter

QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
Gemini Dolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #5
rynochop
Senior Member
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Over MachoGrande
Posts:
1,830
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly View Post
Ron Jaworski on Tony Romo post-game press conference: "If I wasn't hearing the sound, I would've said, 'Boy, there's a beaten quarterback.'"

Ron Jaworksi: Tony Romo "is a guy right now that is lacking confidence." With play calling and execution, Romo's "at an all-time low."
If Romo was Mr. Chuckles in the post game pc and yukin it up with reporters everyone would be complaining about that. How can he be happy with that performance???? Wah wah wah.

He can't win with the realists and we get it.
rynochop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #6
Dave_in-NC
Senior Member
 
Dave_in-NC's Avatar
 
Joined:
Oct 2004
Posts:
10,809
Default

There was one pass play where Romo killled what ever play he was going to run and walked up to the line. I heard him yell "52 is hot" My best guess is that some one on the line was being alerted to the LB coming on the blitz.

The ball is snapped and sure as the ocean is full of water 52 had Romo on his back in a second. Sure he's sailing passes, he's getting killed.
I really can't think of another QB who could operate behind this line.

But yeah, father time is on his heels. That's whats so sad about the whole situation. he could catch him and a few others before this gets figured out.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.



I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
Dave_in-NC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #7
cowboys2233
Senior Member
 
cowboys2233's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2008
Posts:
2,951
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_in-NC View Post
There was one pass play where Romo killled what ever play he was going to run and walked up to the line. I heard him yell "52 is hot" My best guess is that some one on the line was being alerted to the LB coming on the blitz.

The ball is snapped and sure as the ocean is full of water 52 had Romo on his back in a second. Sure he's sailing passes, he's getting killed.
I really can't think of another QB who could operate behind this line.

But yeah, father time is on his heels. That's whats so sad about the whole situation. he could catch him and a few others before this gets figured out.
Man, how sad is that? Romo specifically calls out a guy's number and he gets killed by that very guy. Sad. I heard the same thing happened to Rivers in the Broncos-Chargers game yesterday. Von Miller was wreaking havoc and Rivers specifically pointed to him and said "block that guy." What happens? Von Miller comes off the edge untouched and drills him.

It's kind of funny when its happening to someone else's quarterback!
_______________________________

"I'm not a diva, I'm too rough to be a diva. Hate that word. There's nothing diva about me." -- Dez Bryant
cowboys2233 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #8
5Stars
Lonely Stranger
 
5Stars's Avatar
Years Donated
2007, 2009, 2012
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Location:
Just passing thr
Posts:
22,415
Default

Father Time is walking behind Romo in a race that Romo will not win.

Yeah, that's it...Father Time.

Romo NEEDS time, and not from this "Father Time" stuff. He needs time in the pocket. He may miss some targets at times, but when he has less than 3 seconds before all hell breaks loose and he's running for his life, what do you expect?

But your "Father Time" stuff is really stupid because Romo can still last in this league for at least another 3 or 4 years and still be somewhat the QB that he is now.

But, not to turn you post all around, but when the Cowboys and Romo are in desperation mode and they go hurry up...you can't stop the guy!

So why in the hell don't they come out swinging from minute one? That's what bugs me.

This whole team should be thankful that Romo is the QB. Give him the same time as Brady gets, and he will tear you up!

This lesson is for FREE!
***

Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
5Stars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #9
Gemini Dolly
Senior Member
 
Gemini Dolly's Avatar
 
Joined:
Nov 2007
Location:
TeXas
Posts:
5,311
Default

What do you mean by "father time"?

Am I taking it too literal or do you actually mean him being a father is dragging him down?

Or "father time" meaning he is old?


Gemini Dolly's twitter

QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
Gemini Dolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #10
Dave_in-NC
Senior Member
 
Dave_in-NC's Avatar
 
Joined:
Oct 2004
Posts:
10,809
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboys2233 View Post
Man, how sad is that? Romo specifically calls out a guy's number and he gets killed by that very guy. Sad. I heard the same thing happened to Rivers in the Broncos-Chargers game yesterday. Von Miller was wreaking havoc and Rivers specifically pointed to him and said "block that guy." What happens? Von Miller comes off the edge untouched and drills him.

It's kind of funny when its happening to someone else's quarterback!
I know we are lining up back ups to back ups but good lawwd I'm glad I'm not Romo right now.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.



I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
Dave_in-NC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #11
cowboys2233
Senior Member
 
cowboys2233's Avatar
 
Joined:
Apr 2008
Posts:
2,951
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly View Post
What do you mean by "father time"?

Am I taking it too literal or do you actually mean him being a father is dragging him down?

Or "father time" meaning he is old?
It was actually his father. It was strange, but Ramiro jogged onto the field in the second quarter and blindsided his own son. Personally, I think he was in the neutral zone, but it is what it is.
_______________________________

"I'm not a diva, I'm too rough to be a diva. Hate that word. There's nothing diva about me." -- Dez Bryant
cowboys2233 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #12
Dave_in-NC
Senior Member
 
Dave_in-NC's Avatar
 
Joined:
Oct 2004
Posts:
10,809
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilyin View Post
That was Frostee Rucker, and the same sack that he stripped the ball. So anyone who blames Romo for that fumble... is pretty dumb.
Can't argue with that.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.



I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
Dave_in-NC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #13
Gemini Dolly
Senior Member
 
Gemini Dolly's Avatar
 
Joined:
Nov 2007
Location:
TeXas
Posts:
5,311
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboys2233 View Post
It was actually his father. It was strange, but Ramiro jogged onto the field in the second quarter and blindsided his own son. Personally, I think he was in the neutral zone, but it is what it is.


Gemini Dolly's twitter

QB Tony Romo has played 4 "Win or Go Home" games since 2008 (includes 2 playoff gms) -- in 3 of them, his QBR was less than 20"
---ESPNStatsINFO
Gemini Dolly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #14
Kilyin
Senior Member
 
Kilyin's Avatar
Years Donated
2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
 
Joined:
May 2005
Location:
Chesterfield, VA
Posts:
7,937
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_in-NC View Post
Can't argue with that.
I was actually looking for that specific sack, Rucker is 92, I don't see any sacks by 52 on Romo. Maybe it was 53.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
Kilyin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012   #15
Dave_in-NC
Senior Member
 
Dave_in-NC's Avatar
 
Joined:
Oct 2004
Posts:
10,809
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilyin View Post
I was actually looking for that specific sack, Rucker is 92, I don't see any sacks by 52 on Romo. Maybe it was 53.
It might have been 53. It was one of those plays I just kind of turned my head on the minute Tony snapped the ball because the guy came right over center untouched.

I'd love for you to post it. Maybe some fans would see the reality of being Romo behind this mess of a line.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.



I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
Dave_in-NC is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com