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11-19-2012
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#46
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I don't mean to hijack the thread, but can I ask where the constant use of the word "process" stems from?
Is that something Garrett says a lot? I hope not, because I see no progress in any process. In fact, I think the team is regressing in many facets. This is not a well coached, well prepared team at all.
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11-19-2012
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Exactly...you could put five blocking sleds out there and he would have the same amount of time.
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11-19-2012
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#48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OklahomaCowboy88
I don't mean to hijack the thread, but can I ask where the constant use of the word "process" stems from?
Is that something Garrett says a lot? I hope not, because I see no progress in any process. In fact, I think the team is regressing in many facets. This is not a well coached, well prepared team at all.
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And you've been found to be a casual fan
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11-19-2012
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#49
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Originally Posted by superpunk
It's entirely possible he's shellshocked.
He gets hit once every how many dropbacks? He's had a full season of the imbeciles around him not being smart enough to run the right routes, get lined up onsides, make the right line calls, and in the case of the Oline not physical enough to protect him even if they "execute" the play correctly.
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I think this has much more to do with it than any decline due to age. He's not that old and has significant less mileage on him than your typical 32 year old QB.
It wouldn't surprise me if Romo was throwing for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs 5 years from now.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-19-2012
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#50
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think this has much more to do with it than any decline due to age. He's not that old and has significant less mileage on him than your typical 32 year old QB.
It wouldn't surprise me if Romo was throwing for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs 5 years from now.
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If we're using car analogies, Romo could end up like a rental car. Relatively low mileage, but driven hard and abused. At least thats how I drive rental cars.
The guy gets hit constantly. Broken ribs, punctured lungs, broken collarbones, whatever injury that was in 2008, etc. Remember how always getting hit took it's toll on David Carr? It scarred him for life.
Not trying to be dramatic, but I really think the pounding he's subjected too weekly will have both a physical and psychological effect.
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11-19-2012
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#51
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Originally Posted by OklahomaCowboy88
If we're using car analogies, Romo could end up like a rental car. Relatively low mileage, but driven hard and abused. At least thats how I drive rental cars.
The guy gets hit constantly. Broken ribs, punctured lungs, broken collarbones, whatever injury that was in 2008, etc. Remember how always getting hit took it's toll on David Carr? It scarred him for life.
Not trying to be dramatic, but I really think the pounding he's subjected too weekly will have both a physical and psychological effect.
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The David Carr effect.
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11-19-2012
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#52
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I see a lot of young talent that has been brought in the past 3 or so years, certainly a good foundation for future seasons. I have hope that this team will turn the corner sometime soon with those young guys being at the forefront. And frankly, I could care less if Tony Romo is still around when it happens.
Sorry. I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, not a Tony Romo fanboy. You know what I care about as a fan of my team? Wins, and more importantly... post-season wins. Not the QBR or completion % of my team's QB.
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11-19-2012
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#53
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Romo's completion percentage this year is the second highest in his career. And he is probably getting the worst offensive line performance over that time.
So yeah, he has missed some wide open passes for TD's. If you don't think it it because his mental time clock is accelerated because of how poor his OL is playing then you just aren't paying attention.
The statement that Garrett said Romo has to play within the system is a joke. The system is one big clusterfunk up front and doesn't allow us to be successful running the ball consistently and doesn't give the QB the average amount of time to pass the ball. If ROmo played within the system, we would be giving up double digit sacks every week.
I don't disagree that Father Time catches up to everyone....I think it's laughable to say that is what is going with Romo right now. His problems earlier in the year were directly related to trying to carry the team....over the last few games he is taking fewer chances and keeping us in the games.
Right now it's the best we can hope for.
The OL isn't likely to get any better at least until after the Thanksgiving day game. I don't think Costa will be ready for Thursday and have about given up hope on Kowalski coming back and helping. Who knows on Tyron....could be Parnell starting for him this week. If not, we HAVE to get Free off the field at some point....he's been awful in about 7 of our 10 games. Livings has been serviceable. Bernadeau similar to Free and Dockery even worse than that.
There has be at least two new OL starters next year for this team to move ahead.
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11-19-2012
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#54
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Exactly...you could put five blocking sleds out there and he would have the same amount of time.
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Not really...you can't just run over blocking sleds. They'd give him more time.
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11-19-2012
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#55
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Originally Posted by TheFinisher
I see a lot of young talent that has been brought in the past 3 or so years, certainly a good foundation for future seasons. I have hope that this team will turn the corner sometime soon with those young guys being at the forefront. And frankly, I could care less if Tony Romo is still around when it happens.
Sorry. I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, not a Tony Romo fanboy. You know what I care about as a fan of my team? Wins, and more importantly... post-season wins. Not the QBR or completion % of my team's QB.
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How do you propose to get wins without a quality QB? You think they just grow on trees? All that young talent is just wasted without a QB.
Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clint Stoerner, Chad Hutchinson, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson and Drew Bledsoe were starters at some point after Aikman and before Romo. This doesn't include Tony Banks who was the first attempted stop gap and McGee, Brad Johnson and Jon Kitna who had to start at some point for an injured Romo.
Have I missed anyone? If the fools around here excuse this mediocre product we see on the field as rebuilding, then just wait until Romo is no longer around and we have to look for the next franchise QB from the football dolt that sold us some of those QB's. You don't rebuild with a franchise QB is his prime.
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11-19-2012
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#56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I think this has much more to do with it than any decline due to age. He's not that old and has significant less mileage on him than your typical 32 year old QB.
It wouldn't surprise me if Romo was throwing for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs 5 years from now.
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Exactly, Romo wasn't even starting/playing until he was what, 26-27? (Not gonna look it up) Of course, on this team he's getting more tread grinded off the tires every year than he should be, but the point still stands.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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11-19-2012
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#57
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While Free played a bad game, some others you might want to criticize about should be:
Lance Dunbar - missed a LB blitz up the middle and then in OT didn't stay into block a blitzing CB of the edge
Felix Jones - failed to recognize a LB blitz off the edge of the front
Kevin Olgetree - Ran his route too far, causing Romo to double pump his throw and hold onto the ball. Play was only designed to get short yardage as it was 1st and 10.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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11-19-2012
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#58
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Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
But the first half was littered with miscues, and not all of them were the fault of the WR's. Romo was sailing passes, throwing short, and as accurate as a game of horseshoes.
So I'm just posing this question.
What if this is the first signs of his decline?
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As bad as the O-line is we can't afford Romo's "Miscues" if we want to go deep into the post season much less see one. I'm glad more and more people are starting to notice that Romo is inaccurate when it matters, like when a receiver beats a defender, when it's 3rd down, and when the game is on the line.
And now it seems every game as of late when Romo does hit an open receiver that has beat a defender, (Namely Dez more often than not,) the receiver has to slow down or stop and wait for the ball breaking stride and losing the ground he once gained on the defender when if he got the ball in stride it would have gone to the house...
But I digress, Romo is the best scrambler I've seen in a long time. Just wish he was accurate when it mattered...
Que the Stat Police in 5...4....3.....2... 
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11-19-2012
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#59
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What was Harbaugh's and Schiano's process?
Need a bottle of that
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11-19-2012
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinisher
And frankly, I could care less if Tony Romo is still around when it happens.
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If Quincy Carter doesn't fail one too many drug tests, Romo never takes a snap for this team. The three QB for 2004 are Carter, Testaverde, and Henson. Since I don't count on this team getting that lucky again any time soon, I'd prefer Romo stay around for awhile longer thank you.
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