Lack of Creativity on Offense - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Dday22t · 11-20-2012

We don't have HB screen in our playbook anymore do we?

rwalters31 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by jday

Actually, the problem all centers on the offensive line and Jason Garrett. Every game it seems to take a full 1st half for Garrett to figure out that slow developing plays and runs, as a general rule, do not work behind this offensive line.

Bulls eye! on target! right on! You get it! . . . . . . Yep!

This is the one point that I got at the beginning of the season and really showed against Cleveland. It almost got his QB killed. It wasn't until he chanced his tactic to short passes that Romo became effective. The receivers started coming back to Romo when he needed help. This saved the game for the Cowboys.

FuzzyLumpkins · 11-20-2012

Are people really criticizing Garrett because he tries to run the ball?

Garland powerplay · 11-20-2012

The Cowboys offense plays better in 2)00 min offense or playing from behind. If they design their offense like New England like they're hair is on fire in first half. They could go conservative in 2nd half after scoring 30.

rwalters31 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Are people really criticizing Garrett because he tries to run the ball?

Not at all, he just chooses to run at the wrong time. If you notice the runs do not work. Against a team like Cleveland with a very good DL you need to be a little more creative. This was the time for short passes to set up the run and mid range passing game. The long pass should have been put on the shelve until the second half when it would have been more effective. Until the Cowboys get a real OL the run game as a first strike will not be effective.

FuzzyLumpkins · 11-20-2012

That is criticizing him for running the ball. So you want him to not even try to run the ball until the second half?

Zordon · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by tecolote

This is so frustrating. You have an anemic offense in yesterday's first half and Garrett does nothing to change things up, nothing. Even on the first drive of the second half they took 6 minutes to get a FG. This after Cleveland had already taken 5 minutes in their first drive.

frustrating is an understatement. this anemic offense makes you want to pull your hair out. i've seen zero creativity this year. every single game is the same conservative gameplan, and it takes jason till somewhere in the 3rd quarter to adjust. why hasn't he employed a hurry up once or twice a game to speed up the pace on offense? where are the bootlegs and rollouts? what happened to the screen pass and trick plays? why is every run play a dive btw the tackles? it's like jason lost half his playbook from a few years ago.

baddude · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by jimnabby

You know, posting this over and over doesn't make it any more true.

We ran on 14 of 39 1st downs against the Browns. Not one of them went for a loss.
We ran on 10 of 21 1st downs against the Eagles. Not one of them went for a loss.
We ran on 10 of 25 1st downs against the Falcons. One of them went for a loss.

You are twisting the statistics. The first 3 drives in the Dallas vs Brows game, which took an entire quarter of the game:

1st drive:
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1st and 10 at DAL 20F.Jones right tackle to DAL 21 for 1 yard (F.Rucker).
1st and 10 at dallas 20: Felix Jones right tackle for 1 yard

1st and 10 at DAL 20F.Jones right tackle to DAL 21 for 1 yard (F.Rucker).1st and 10 at DAL 20F.Jones right tackle to DAL 21 for 1 yard (F.Rucker).
2nd drive:
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1st and 10 at dallas 14: Incomplete pass to Felix Jones

3rd drive:
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1st and 10 at dallas 20: Felix Jones left tackle for 0 yards

I won't even bother to look at the other games.

CATCH17 · 11-20-2012

I don't have a problem with running the ball or even Garrett's timing of it all that much.

My problem with him running the ball is he trots out 2 TE's and a fullback just about everytime we run the ball.

He could create a lot of natural lanes by spreading out the defense. I guess he was sick that day when Norv went over that.

sbark · 11-20-2012

I have no problem with Garretts lack of "junk plays", nor the amount or when he attempts to run the ball.....

What I see is the lack of creativity in doing what all the other teams implement, and that is the quasi pick routes which other teams use to rub off the DB or LB in the playbook......

To having those to rub off the DB combined with a hot route, say Witten rubbing clean the DB for Austin or Dez...

....would go along way toward teams backing off the blitz paks on Romo....

WV Cowboy · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

You witnessed an uber inpressive onside kick!! C'mon now

Really, ... what was that?

Is there a thread about that, .. I haven't seen one.

Gaede · 11-20-2012

I think there's a middle ground here.

I do believe Garrett needs to be more creative with the offense.

But I also believe that his horrible offensive line and running game really hampers his ability to be creative.

CowboysFaninDC · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by DTK

If it wasn't for the Sunday Ticket, I'd never see a reverse, fake reverse, double reverse, flea flicker, naked bootlegs, etc. Where's the creativity of this offense? I read where we ran play action on only 2 plays yesterday even. Considering how poorous the run game was yesterday, I somewhat understand that, but still...

Ray Lewis said it a few years ago and it's still the same. This offense is very vanilla. Opposing teams have very little scouting to do. Is this a coaching problem? Or the fact that we have too many stupid players to be able to run such plays?

Anyhow ... BEAT THE SKINS!!

those type of plays take time to develop and need a competent OL. in case you missed it, the OL is horrible. and to run play action...you have to have an effective running game, otherwise who is going to fall for the fake hand off? !!!!

dude. get a grip

Doomsday · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by jday

Actually, the problem all centers on the offensive line and Jason Garrett. Every game it seems to take a full 1st half for Garrett to figure out that slow developing plays and runs, as a general rule, do not work behind this offensive line.

I agree, I thought he finally went to basic football 101 in the 2nd half and they started moving in pretty effectively.

It was interesting to see them go to more of a smash route concept, it really put the Cleveland DBs in a bind.

DrunkWithPower · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by jimmy40

hard to be creative with a bad Oline and receivers that can't run and think at the same time.

Yep...I'd hate to see what would happen if someone gave Dez a stick of gum during the game...