Where is Arkin? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Verdict · 11-20-2012

Our line is decimated by injuries and we aren't getting great play from the replacements, yet Arkin is not playing. I'm not saying he should play .... but I am wondering why we are using up a roster spot on a guy who isn't good enough to even get spot duty on a team with a weak line, no depth AND is decimated by injuries.

Does he have SOOO much potential that next year he will compete for a starting position? If not why keep him? Are we going to redshirt him next year too?

rocboy22 · 11-20-2012

I have the same questions.

Zordon · 11-20-2012

two years in a row this guy can't see the field when our oline is trash.

read btw the lines.

AbeBeta · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Verdict

Our line is decimated by injuries and we aren't getting great play from the replacements, yet Arkin is not playing. I'm not saying he should play .... but I am wondering why we are using up a roster spot on a guy who isn't good enough to even get spot duty on a team with a weak line, no depth AND is decimated by injuries.

Does he have SOOO much potential that next year he will compete for a starting position? If not why keep him? Are we going to redshirt him next year too?

Every team knows it can only dress 46. You reserve some of those last 7 spots for guys you hope to develop. Small school guy with no weight program needs time. Now if he's not good enough to dress next year he won't make it out of camp. But right now we are doing what you do with developmental guys

Deep_Freeze · 11-20-2012

Yeah either he stinks or they just have too much loyalty to vets as we have seen in the past at other positions. Hard to believe Arkin is worse than Dockery, but when they are trotting a guy like Tree out there ahead of Harris or Beasley, the coaching staff's allegiance to vets definitely has to come into question.

stasheroo · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Zordon

two years in a row this guy can't see the field when our oline is trash.

read btw the lines.

Sure doesn't look good.

Next year is his make or break I would think.

Chocolate Lab · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Zordon

two years in a row this guy can't see the field when our oline is trash.

read btw the lines.

Yep. He can't play.

Even after the magical full offseason with Woicik.

Gaede · 11-20-2012

Ron Leary was supposed to be a 3rd round pick.

Arkin was a diamond in the rough.

Brewster was, uh, a nice guy?

We can go on and on and on. The team doesn't invest high picks in interior lineman because they feel they can find trash in the later rounds and coach 'em into diamonds. This is one of the biggest problems with the franchise. This garbage-shopping philosophy has really held us back.

rlgiv · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Yeah either he stinks or they just have too much loyalty to vets as we have seen in the past at other positions. Hard to believe Arkin is worse than Dockery, but when they are trotting a guy like Tree out there ahead of Harris or Beasley, the coaching staff's allegiance to vets definitely has to come into question.

I wouldnt be surprised after the last two weeks if we continue to see less and less of Tree

rocboy22 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Ron Leary was supposed to be a 3rd round pick.

Arkin was a diamond in the rough.

Brewster was, uh, a nice guy?

We can go on and on and on. The team doesn't invest high picks in interior lineman because they feel they can find trash in the later rounds and coach 'em into diamonds. This is one of the biggest problems with the franchise. This garbage-shopping philosophy has really held us back.

yet we can get a costa or kowalski undrafted and they seem to be at least halfway decent. seems we should either draft olinemen real high, or just not at all and pick them up as UDFA, because the mid round guys we take blow and we could use the pick on another position.

stasheroo · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Ron Leary was supposed to be a 3rd round pick.

Arkin was a diamond in the rough.

Brewster was, uh, a nice guy?

We can go on and on and on. The team doesn't invest high picks in interior lineman because they feel they can find trash in the later rounds and coach 'em into diamonds. This is one of the biggest problems with the franchise. This garbage-shopping philosophy has really held us back.

It seems clear that they need some scouts who can find offensive linemen because as it stands now, they do not have them.

A recent 'kick in the pants', the Browns drafted Mitchell Schwartz - who the Cowboys' 'braintrust graded as a late round pick - in round 2 and the rookie has helped solidify the right side of their line.

The most recent of many 'under-estmates' made by the Cowboys' scouting department.

DBOY3141 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

yet we can get a costa or kowalski undrafted and they seem to be at least halfway decent. seems we should either draft olinemen real high, or just not at all and pick them up as UDFA, because the mid round guys we take blow and we could use the pick on another position.

Would Costa or Kowalski start for any other team besides the Cowboys or Bears? Color me not impressed with either of those guys either.

The only hope on this O-Line is Smith and we will see if he is better suited for LT or RT, the jury is still out on that one.

rocboy22 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by DBOY3141

Would Costa or Kowalski start for any other team besides the Cowboys or Bears? Color me not impressed with either of those guys either.

The only hope on this O-Line is Smith and we will see if he is better suited for LT or RT, the jury is still out on that one.

I totally understand your point, but they CAN get on the field here, while Arkin can't even dress. I am not saying I am satisfied with UDFAs all over the line, I was just saying that it seems we can't draft a mid-late rounder and ever have them even make it to the field, but our UDFAs can. Total waste of draft picks.

visionary · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Yep. He can't play.

Even after the magical full offseason with Woicik.

not there yet

after all this is garrett's rookie season so woicik is not even really here this year

DBOY3141 · 11-20-2012

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Originally Posted by rocboy22

I totally understand your point, but they CAN get on the field here, while Arkin can't even dress. I am not saying I am satisfied with UDFAs all over the line, I was just saying that it seems we can't draft a mid-late rounder and ever have them even make it to the field, but our UDFAs can. Total waste of draft picks.

Gotcha. Amazing how bad the FO and scouts are with OL. Until they get it fixed, I see another 17 years of .500 ball.