Boys vs. Redskins Prediction Thread

[Doomsay]

Lee would be the difference between a win and a loss in this matchup IMO.

24 - 17 skins

[Wayne02]

Originally Posted by TVMan

Mediocre does not matter when it comes to Dallas/Washington on Thanksgiving Day.

This rivalry is about to be restored.

I know that. I was responding to the poster who said that anybody who thinks that Washington is going to win this game is crazy, and I gave that example to show just how foolish that was of him to say.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by IAmLegend

All you guys picking the foreskins are crazy. Their defense is overrated. The Cowboys are going to win this game. I'll say 27-21.

Weedon and the Browns were able to move the ball so that's why most are picking the skins

[ScipioCowboy]

Earlier in the week, I shared my fear at the very real prospect of getting curb stomped by the Redskins on Thanksgiving. However, after rewatching the Browns game, I found a sliver of optimism shining through the cracks of an unimpressive win.

It's possible the Cowboys offense turned a corner in the second half. After playing arguably the worst half of football they'd played in five years, the Cowboys proceeded to score on 4 of their 6 second half possessions and 5 of 8 possessions when we include overtime. They scored 20 points in the second half alone. I venture it was their most productive half of football all season.

So how did they turn the corner? Because Dez Bryant turned a corner and actually took over a game, and Dwayne Harris seemed to wrest the third receiver spot from Kevin Ogletree. Once Harris started playing, all the drive-killing communication problems between Romo and his third receiver stopped.

Now, I know what you're thinking: But it's the Browns, dude. This is true; however, the Browns have a better defense than the Skins do. Neither defense is good, but the Browns defense is better across most of the board.

If the Cowboys take the offensive efficiency they showed in the second half against Cleveland and carry it over to Thanksgiving, they should be able to score over 30 points. And if you can score 30 or more points, you have an excellent chance at winning.

Make no mistake. The Redskins are a better team than the Browns, but only because of RG3. This means the Cowboys must play both halves if they want to win.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

Earlier in the week, I shared my fear at the very real prospect of getting curb stomped by the Redskins on Thanksgiving. However, after rewatching the Browns game, I found a sliver of optimism shining through the cracks of an unimpressive win.

It's possible the Cowboys offense turned a corner in the second half. After playing arguably the worst half of football they'd played in five years, the Cowboys proceeded to score on 4 of their 6 second half possessions and 5 of 8 possession when we include overtime. They scored 20 points in the second half alone. I venture it was their most productive half of football all season.

So how did they turn the corner? Because Dez Bryant turned a corner and actually took over a game, and Dwayne Harris seemed to wrest the third receiver spot from Kevin Ogletree. Once Harris started playing, all the drive-killing communication problems between Romo and his third receiver stopped.

[View Full Quote]Now, I know what you're thinking: But it's the Browns, dude. This is true; however, the Browns have a better defense than the Skins do. Neither defense is good, but the Browns defense is better across most of the board.

If the Cowboys take the offensive efficiency they showed in the second half against Cleveland and carry it over to Thanksgiving, they should be able to score over 30 points. And if you can score 30 or more points, you have an excellent chance at winning.

Make no mistake. The Redskins are a better team than the Browns, but only because of RG3. This means the Cowboys must play both halves if they want to win.

You don't turn any corners until you are ABOVE .500

The End

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

You don't turn any corners until you are ABOVE .500

The End

The validity of your argument hinges entirely on the topic of discussion. Since we weren't talking about the team in its entirety, your point is misplaced.

Having said that, you should notice I prefaced my remarks with "It's possible the offense has turned a corner". We'll find out for certain in the coming weeks.

[LifetimeBoysFan]

I'll admit our OL gives me no real boost of confidence. However I feel our line though is inferior to theirs (even with theirs if Smith is starting) and a notch above (if he starts and Parnell replaces Free).

The big difference is that it is more forgivable to go in with our OL banged up against their front 7. Orakpo and Carrigan both out leaves what Fletcher to fear? I think we can survive.

With our DL and the way Cater and of course Ware play we should be able to spy and corral RG 3 while Claiborne and Carr Man up downfield. Even Spencer lately has been making life uncomfortable for QBs.

Then you factor in our group of weapons against that secondary and as long as Dez doesn't regress I see no reason he can't eat them for breakfast ala Cleveland. For that matter Witten too. Even Miles and Harris both could be major problems for them.

Having said all of that. On paper we should be victorious. That as you know means about as much as the kind of paper you wipe with at a FedEx field men's room, and this team certainly is capable of playing down to the competition (see first half last week). Not to mention the stupid penalties and drive killing turnovers or coaching decisions with game on the line too. So I am going with best case and worst case. Depending on which team shows up for both halves on Thursday.

Dallas 31-17

Or Redskins 24-20 aided with mediocre play, penalties and turnovers.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

The validity of your argument hinges entirely on the topic of discussion. Since we weren't talking about the team in its entirety, your point is misplaced.

Having said that, you should notice I prefaced my remarks with "It's possible the offense has turned a corner". We'll find out for certain in the coming weeks.

I really can't say it if they are 6-5 because they have the tendency to fall back to .500.

So if I see a 8-5 record then I will believe the second half of the browns game was the turning point

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

So how did they turn the corner? Because Dez Bryant turned a corner and actually took over a game, and Dwayne Harris seemed to wrest the third receiver spot from Kevin Ogletree. Once Harris started playing, all the drive-killing communication problems between Romo and his third receiver stopped.

That's interesting, I only saw parts of the 1st half via bad streaming (with an icon in the middle of the screen - still have the virus from the website). I had thought that Harris came in to spell Otree after an injury, but it looks like he came in well before that and seemed to do well, as you said, making catches or drawing penalties. That would represent a major change, a 3rd receiver that is not less than zero in many circumstances. I think that Harris is a better blocker than Otree as well.

[TheIceman]

Originally Posted by LifetimeBoysFan

I'll admit our OL gives me no real boost of confidence. However I feel our line though is inferior to theirs (even with theirs if Smith is starting) and a notch above (if he starts and Parnell replaces Free).

The big difference is that it is more forgivable to go in with our OL banged up against their front 7. Orakpo and Carrigan both out leaves what Fletcher to fear? I think we can survive.

With our DL and the way Cater and of course Ware play we should be able to spy and corral RG 3 while Claiborne and Carr Man up downfield. Even Spencer lately has been making life uncomfortable for QBs.

Then you factor in our group of weapons against that secondary and as long as Dez doesn't regress I see no reason he can't eat them for breakfast ala Cleveland. For that matter Witten too. Even Miles and Harris both could be major problems for them.

[View Full Quote] Having said all of that. On paper we should be victorious. That as you know means about as much as the kind of paper you wipe with at a FedEx field men's room, and this team certainly is capable of playing down to the competition (see first half last week). Not to mention the stupid penalties and drive killing turnovers or coaching decisions with game on the line too. So I am going with best case and worst case. Depending on which team shows up for both halves on Thursday.

Dallas 31-17

Or Redskins 24-20 aided with mediocre play, penalties and turnovers.

Kerrigan is not out. He hasn't even been injured. You're thinking of Adam Carriker who is known more as a run stopper than a pass rusher.

[DenCWBY]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

Earlier in the week, I shared my fear at the very real prospect of getting curb stomped by the Redskins on Thanksgiving. However, after rewatching the Browns game, I found a sliver of optimism shining through the cracks of an unimpressive win.

It's possible the Cowboys offense turned a corner in the second half. After playing arguably the worst half of football they'd played in five years, the Cowboys proceeded to score on 4 of their 6 second half possessions and 5 of 8 possessions when we include overtime. They scored 20 points in the second half alone. I venture it was their most productive half of football all season.

So how did they turn the corner? Because Dez Bryant turned a corner and actually took over a game, and Dwayne Harris seemed to wrest the third receiver spot from Kevin Ogletree. Once Harris started playing, all the drive-killing communication problems between Romo and his third receiver stopped.

[View Full Quote]Now, I know what you're thinking: But it's the Browns, dude. This is true; however, the Browns have a better defense than the Skins do. Neither defense is good, but the Browns defense is better across most of the board.

If the Cowboys take the offensive efficiency they showed in the second half against Cleveland and carry it over to Thanksgiving, they should be able to score over 30 points. And if you can score 30 or more points, you have an excellent chance at winning.

Make no mistake. The Redskins are a better team than the Browns, but only because of RG3. This means the Cowboys must play both halves if they want to win.

The last sentence of your take is the key and that (4 mistake free quarters) has not happened in years under JG as the OC or HC. That is the problem. By what you have seen throughout this year, (the penalties, turnovers, poor blocking, misassignments) are you confident they will all the sudden change? By the way they are coached, I just don't see anything that will change this teams play/mentality. Same strategy, same plays, same team, same "process", same message, same result. Would love to see JG get struck by lightening and adjust our passing game to protect Romo but haven't seen it so far.

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by DenCWBY

The last sentence of your take is the key and that (4 mistake free quarters) has not happened in years under JG as the OC or HC. That is the problem. By what you have seen throughout this year, (the penalties, turnovers, poor blocking, misassignments) are you confident they will all the sudden change? By the way they are coached, I just don't see anything that will change this teams play/mentality. Same strategy, same plays, same team, same "process", same message, same result. Would love to see JG get struck by lightening and adjust our passing game to protect Romo but haven't seen it so far.

I'm not. I'm merely acknowledging the possibility.

[DenCWBY]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

I'm not. I'm merely acknowledging the possibility.

I understand and appreciate your point. Just pointing out, the trend with our offensive strategy over the last few years does not make this possibility probable. JG just seems to throw the same stuff to each new D expecting it to work, while throwing Romo out there like a sitting duck.
We lose Romo, it is over and there is no QB that would want to apply this strategy with this Oline, unless he runs a 4.42 40.

[jday]

When I was watching college football last year, I was watching RGIII. So I really don't have a good feeling about this game. The strength of the Cowboys right now is the defense. The strength of the Redskins is now their offense. We have experienced season-ending injuries to key starters. The Redskins have actually lost more starters to season-ending injuries than the Cowboys (I think). So, yeah, very difficult to predict, but if I had to make a guess I would lean towards:

Redskins: 27
Dallas: 20

[jday]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

Earlier in the week, I shared my fear at the very real prospect of getting curb stomped by the Redskins on Thanksgiving. However, after rewatching the Browns game, I found a sliver of optimism shining through the cracks of an unimpressive win.

It's possible the Cowboys offense turned a corner in the second half. After playing arguably the worst half of football they'd played in five years, the Cowboys proceeded to score on 4 of their 6 second half possessions and 5 of 8 possessions when we include overtime. They scored 20 points in the second half alone. I venture it was their most productive half of football all season.

So how did they turn the corner? Because Dez Bryant turned a corner and actually took over a game, and Dwayne Harris seemed to wrest the third receiver spot from Kevin Ogletree. Once Harris started playing, all the drive-killing communication problems between Romo and his third receiver stopped.

[View Full Quote]Now, I know what you're thinking: But it's the Browns, dude. This is true; however, the Browns have a better defense than the Skins do. Neither defense is good, but the Browns defense is better across most of the board.

If the Cowboys take the offensive efficiency they showed in the second half against Cleveland and carry it over to Thanksgiving, they should be able to score over 30 points. And if you can score 30 or more points, you have an excellent chance at winning.

Make no mistake. The Redskins are a better team than the Browns, but only because of RG3. This means the Cowboys must play both halves if they want to win.

I can see how you might come to that conclusion, but that has actually been the story of the Cowboys season it seems. The offense stubbornly tries to execute plays they simply do not have the offensive line talent to run in the 1st half and then switches it's focus to pass when they have to try and play catch up. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it's too little too late.