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11-20-2012
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VA Tech to the SEC?
Kyle Tucker @KyleTucker_CJ
Still can't believe Hokies AD talked about VT/SEC possibility on radio in VA tonight. What he told me last summer: http://cjky.it/pmgxn1
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11-20-2012
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Save the Snow Leopard
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Clemson and FSU want in, too.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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11-20-2012
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Originally Posted by jobberone
Clemson and FSU want in, too.
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The powers that be in the ACC have always made the schools outside of North Carolina feel like they didn't belong. That **** is going to come back to haunt them.
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11-20-2012
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and so it begins. in regards to clemson and FSU, i doubt the SEC would expand past 16 teams, so someone will be left out, most likely FSU or clemson since they already have teams in florida and south carolina.
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11-20-2012
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as a big 12 homer, i hope we get FSU, Georgia Tech and stay at 12
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11-20-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MC KAos
and so it begins. in regards to clemson and FSU, i doubt the SEC would expand past 16 teams, so someone will be left out, most likely FSU or clemson since they already have teams in florida and south carolina.
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Does the Big 12 make a play on some ACC schools they need at least 2 more schools to stay relevant in the big Picture.
With the Big East and ACC dying that give them a chance to grab some teams.
In the end I think we end up with 4 Super Power conferences
SEC=16 teams
Big Ten = 16 Teams
Pac 12=16 Teams
Big 12= 16 teams (I think they will get there)
64 teams out of Division 1 football and the rest to scrape for the rest
it would not surprise me when this all shakes out that the ACC & the BIg East end up merging
The upcoming playoff system is starting to shift the landscape of college football. The more teams you get into the playoffs the more money for the conference
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Last edited by Kangaroo : 11-20-2012 at 11:48 PM.
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11-21-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangaroo
Does the Big 12 make a play on some ACC schools they need at least 2 more schools to stay relevant in the big Picture.
With the Big East and ACC dying that give them a chance to grab some teams.
In the end I think we end up with 4 Super Power conferences
SEC=16 teams
Big Ten = 16 Teams
Pac 12=16 Teams
Big 12= 16 teams (I think they will get there)
64 teams out of Division 1 football and the rest to scrape for the rest
it would not surprise me when this all shakes out that the ACC & the BIg East end up merging
The upcoming playoff system is starting to shift the landscape of college football. The more teams you get into the playoffs the more money for the conference
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The Big 12 doesnt need to add anyone to stay relevant.
With 10 current members they are staring at 2 BCS slots and 9 overall bowl games. Had KSU remained undefeated they almost certainly make the most money from the bowl season and wouldn't even have to split it with more than 10 members. 2 of those members wouldn't even get full shares.
You need enough quality games to enable high rankings. Only 4 conferences have that and this year that's been questionable for even the Big 10.
Making lots of money helps produce better programs.
The Big 12 could have added schools already if they wanted to but unless it was Notre Dame bringing more money per school they opted to stick at 10.
Big 12 members like that they each get to play UT once a year and that they don't have to play a CCG to advance to the playoffs/BCS.
The SEC and Big 12 routinely will have two teams in the 8 team playoff. The SEC will split that money with a bunch of spare teams while the Big 12 has top to bottom the best football conference going.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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11-21-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
The Big 12 doesnt need to add anyone to stay relevant.
With 10 current members they are staring at 2 BCS slots and 9 overall bowl games. Had KSU remained undefeated they almost certainly make the most money from the bowl season and wouldn't even have to split it with more than 10 members. 2 of those members wouldn't even get full shares.
You need enough quality games to enable high rankings. Only 4 conferences have that and this year that's been questionable for even the Big 10.
Making lots of money helps produce better programs.
The Big 12 could have added schools already if they wanted to but unless it was Notre Dame bringing more money per school they opted to stick at 10.
Big 12 members like that they each get to play UT once a year and that they don't have to play a CCG to advance to the playoffs/BCS.
[View Full Quote]The SEC and Big 12 routinely will have two teams in the 8 team playoff. The SEC will split that money with a bunch of spare teams while the Big 12 has top to bottom the best football conference going.
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I think this will change with the playoffs coming and after the and 1 generates so much money i think they are going to quickly expand it to a 8 team then 16 team playoff in college football.
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from his government."
Thomas Paine
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11-21-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MC KAos
as a big 12 homer, i hope we get FSU, Georgia Tech and stay at 12
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I don't see GTech. I think the SEC is out for FSU, Florida will never approve them. The Big 12 is the logical landing spot for FSU IMO but now that the ACC has reworked FSU's split, they may not be as interested in leaving the ACC. Depends on what the ACC does next IMO.
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11-21-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
The Big 12 doesnt need to add anyone to stay relevant.
With 10 current members they are staring at 2 BCS slots and 9 overall bowl games. Had KSU remained undefeated they almost certainly make the most money from the bowl season and wouldn't even have to split it with more than 10 members. 2 of those members wouldn't even get full shares.
You need enough quality games to enable high rankings. Only 4 conferences have that and this year that's been questionable for even the Big 10.
Making lots of money helps produce better programs.
The Big 12 could have added schools already if they wanted to but unless it was Notre Dame bringing more money per school they opted to stick at 10.
Big 12 members like that they each get to play UT once a year and that they don't have to play a CCG to advance to the playoffs/BCS.
[View Full Quote]The SEC and Big 12 routinely will have two teams in the 8 team playoff. The SEC will split that money with a bunch of spare teams while the Big 12 has top to bottom the best football conference going.
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The Big 12, especially Texas, needs to stop with this idiotic line of thinking or get left by the wayside down the road.
Personally I don't think they really think that way. I think they just have not gotten the teams they wanted yet. They will move sooner or later because they know they have to move sooner or later.
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11-21-2012
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Adapt or perish. That's what it's all about at this point.
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11-23-2012
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First, you do NOT get into the SEC unless it benefits the SEC. Second you do not get in the SEC unless the SEC ask you.
The only interest right now for the SEC is does it do anything for recruiting? That's why Mizzo and A&M got ask. The SEC wanted a presence in Tx AND further East (Cali).
I could see Va Tech filling a void but not Fl St.
But don't see them expanding anytime soon. Just my opinion as a current SEC fan who lives in SEC Country, Roll Tide Roll!
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11-26-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
The Big 12, especially Texas, needs to stop with this idiotic line of thinking or get left by the wayside down the road.
Personally I don't think they really think that way. I think they just have not gotten the teams they wanted yet. They will move sooner or later because they know they have to move sooner or later.
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Begs the question, what teams would it be that the Big 12 wants that they could not have already had? ND is about the only one I can think of that they wanted and didn't get.
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11-26-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jobberone
Clemson and FSU want in, too.
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I find Clemson and FSU to the SEC infinitely more believable than those two joinging the Big12--like was said this past summer. They fit well in the SEC for several reasons.
I'd think that both South Carolina and Florida would not want this though.
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