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Diogenes · 11-20-2012

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Well at least someone has some sense.

Yeah, I remember the '02 season and the Buckeyes didn't score a lot of style points that year either. They were downright lucky to win a few of those games, some against unranked opponents, by bizarre fluke plays. If I'm not mistaken a couple of the games went to OT, and others went down to the wire.

They beat every team in front of them however, and subsequently proved their worth by beating a heavily favored Miami team in the NC game.

burmafrd · 11-21-2012

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Originally Posted by mldardy

OSU non-fans/haters are hilarious. They got caught and they didn't pay a light price. Anytime you miss out on a bowl game that isn't a light price. Give me a break. Do you really think what they did warranted more than a 1 year bowl ban? If you do then that fits into what I just said you are nothing more than a OSU hater.

Favorable big ten officials? What are you talking about? My goodness you are all over the place with your hatred.

When did I say ND didn't beat anybody?

I said ND has barely gotten by in some games in some cases against lesser opponents but they have beaten some quality opponents.

You say the Stanford/Oklahoma are better than any team OSU has played. Stanford yes, Choklahoma hell no. I'll take Nebraska over them.

never fails.

Absolutely predictable

As I said, OSU fans have this sense of entitlement

Pretty much like Squeeler Fans
Who also never admit how much favorable official treatment they have gotten over the years

joseephuss · 11-21-2012

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Oh give me a break with this weak non-con schedule bs. Every school has a weak non-con schedule unless you are Notre Dame.

I guess you don't know that they make these schedules years ahead. Ohio St doesn't have any weaker non conference schedule than any other BCS school. You play one BCS school, a mid major school and a couple of DI-AA's. Ohio St. has always scheduled a top level opponent in it's non con but when you make the schedule 7-8 in advance you don't know what condition that school will be in. They schedule Cal this year, had a home and home with Miami Fl last year and the year before.

They've schedule schools like Oregon, TCU, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma in the next 2-7 years but if those schools aren't good at that time is that their fault.

You don't really know what you are talking just admit it. I know because you keep making horrible points with each and every post.

All of that is just laughable. Watch them play. They aren't that good. And you had no response about not scheduling a single non-conference road game for this year. You are the one that brought up stuff that doesn't matter. Who cares who they played last year or next year. I am talking about this season and this team. Look at the AP poll. They still have a one loss Alabama team ranked above OSU. How is that possible if being undefeated is the only thing that matters?

mldardy · 11-21-2012

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All of that is just laughable. Watch them play. They aren't that good. And you had no response about not scheduling a single non-conference road game for this year. You are the one that brought up stuff that doesn't matter. Who cares who they played last year or next year. I am talking about this season and this team. Look at the AP poll. They still have a one loss Alabama team ranked above OSU. How is that possible if being undefeated is the only thing that matters?

There are two 1 loss teams ahead of tOSU and they both play in the SEC. The SEC is always going to get the benefit of the doubt in that situation. Have you been paying attention to college football and realize that the SEC is the best conference in the country? Apparently not to make a silly point like this.

In the BCS, it would be extremely close between a 1 loss SEC team and an undefeated team but I would strongly believe that an undefeated OSU team that hypothetically defeats Michigan and then Nebraska in the B1G championship game(defeating two ranked teams) would be in the championship game over a 1 loss SEC team. If that isn't the case then the system is extremely flawed. Especially if it turned out to be Georgia. Any team that gets beat by 28 points has no business playing for a championship

On a side note, what is laughable is your 'knowledge' of college football. It seems to me like you haven't watch the Buckeyes play this season or you are just letting your hatred of the Buckeyes get in the way of facts. Your hatred is really sticking out like a sore thumb. They have been very good this season regardless of who they've played and you continue on about 'why is a one loss Alabama ranked ahead of them' and things like that really make me wonder what the heck you are talking about.

joseephuss · 11-21-2012

You just changed your stance. First you said being undefeated was the only thing that mattered. Now you say that the SEC gets the benefit of the doubt. They do by the way because we can easily see it as a tough conference. Shows that who they play matters. The Big 10 is a weak conference this year. That matters even though you said it didn't. Which is it? Is being undefeated the be all end all or not?

You never answered the question about Houston from last year. Did them playing in a weak conference matter? I thought it did. Or the fact OSU didn't even schedule a out of conference road game this season. You choose to ignore that fact.

I know college football. I have watched it for years. I can see when teams are great and when they are not. OSU is not a great team this season. They just have an undefeated record. I would take several teams over them this year.

mldardy · 11-21-2012

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You just changed your stance. First you said being undefeated was the only thing that mattered. Now you say that the SEC gets the benefit of the doubt. They do by the way because we can easily see it as a tough conference. Shows that who they play matters. The Big 10 is a weak conference this year. That matters even though you said it didn't. Which is it? Is being undefeated the be all end all or not?

You never answered the question about Houston from last year. Did them playing in a weak conference matter? I thought it did. Or the fact OSU didn't even schedule a out of conference road game this season. You choose to ignore that fact.

I know college football. I have watched it for years. I can see when teams are great and when they are not. OSU is not a great team this season. They just have an undefeated record. I would take several teams over them this year.

I didn't change my stance. I was responding to your argument as to why a 1 loss Alabama was ranked ahead of Ohio St in the AP Poll. The SEC is going to get the benefit of the doubt, unfortunately that's a reality. A 2 loss team from that conference played and won a national championship, a few 1 loss teams have been selected over other teams to play in the BCS title game. That's just a fact.

Being undefeated is all that matters. You can't get any better than that. If Ohio St or any team for that matter were undefeated and didn't get to play for the national championship something is severely wrong.

I didn't even see that you asked about Houston.

Anyway, Houston doesn't even play in a BCS conference. Are you serious right now with this? There was no way they were going to play for the title and even trying to make the comparison that the Big 10 is equal to Conference USA is laughable if that is where you are going.

Ohio St. didn't schedule a road non-con game because they started a home and home with Cal this season. The first of those games happened to be at Ohio St. Did Georgia, South Carolina, LSU play a non-con road game besides their annual rivalry games? No. Is that going to make a difference in you giving Ohio St credit if they did? No. Man do you pay attention to what is going on at all. You are seriously irritating at this point. I don't mind a good debate but when you come off not knowing what you are talking about it makes the conversation less enjoyable.

burmafrd · 11-21-2012

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I didn't change my stance. I was responding to your argument as to why a 1 loss Alabama was ranked ahead of Ohio St in the AP Poll. The SEC is going to get the benefit of the doubt, unfortunately that's a reality. A 2 loss team from that conference played and won a national championship, a few 1 loss teams have been selected over other teams to play in the BCS title game. That's just a fact.

Being undefeated is all that matters. You can't get any better than that. If Ohio St or any team for that matter were undefeated and didn't get to play for the national championship something is severely wrong.

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what is OSU's strength of schedule?

I bet you really do not want to talk about that.

mldardy · 11-21-2012

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what is OSU's strength of schedule?

I bet you really do not want to talk about that.

I don't care what their strength of schedule is. Why don't you go find out and tell us all what it is so you can feel better about yourself.

joseephuss · 11-21-2012

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I didn't change my stance. I was responding to your argument as to why a 1 loss Alabama was ranked ahead of Ohio St in the AP Poll. The SEC is going to get the benefit of the doubt, unfortunately that's a reality. A 2 loss team from that conference played and won a national championship, a few 1 loss teams have been selected over other teams to play in the BCS title game. That's just a fact.

Being undefeated is all that matters. You can't get any better than that. If Ohio St or any team for that matter were undefeated and didn't get to play for the national championship something is severely wrong.

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You are just irritated that you can't make a reasonable counter point. You have not approached this from an objective basis. Your emotion has clouded your opinion.

No, Georgia, South Carolina and LSU failing to schedule out of conference road games does not change my opinion on Ohio St. Why should it? It does impact my opinion on those three teams. They should also do better in scheduling.

Being undefeated is a factor, but is not the only thing that matters. It is that same reasoning that led some to want Ohio St and Michigan to be in the BCS championship game in 2006 before they ever even played their season ending rivalry game. Both teams went on to get blown out in their respective bowl games.

mldardy · 11-21-2012

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You are just irritated that you can't make a reasonable counter point. You have not approached this from an objective basis. Your emotion has clouded your opinion.

No, Georgia, South Carolina and LSU failing to schedule out of conference road games does not change my opinion on Ohio St. Why should it? It does impact my opinion on those three teams. They should also do better in scheduling.

Being undefeated is a factor, but is not the only thing that matters. It is that same reasoning that led some to want Ohio St and Michigan to be in the BCS championship game in 2006 before they ever even played their season ending rivalry game. Both teams went on to get blown out in their respective bowl games.

Well if it doesn't change your opinion then why even complain about Ohio st. not playing a road game. You made no point at all there. Very few top BCS teams play 1 or more than 1 true road non-conference games. Yet you tried and failed to make a point about Ohio St. not doing it.

If you are trying to tell me that an undefeated OSU didn't deserve to play in the 06 title game you are even more clueless than I thought. Who cares what happened in their respective bowl games. You are going to single that out. OSU has been pretty good in BCS games overall but yet you want to single out 2006. You are seriously just a hater at this point and nothing more. OSU haters love to bring up 2006 but don't bring up 2002, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010(yeah I know it didn't count but we all saw what happened). If anyone is making points and then backtracking it's you. You keep making these points and then in your next post soften your stance on something like being undefeated doesn't matter and now you say it does.

joseephuss · 11-21-2012

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Well if it doesn't change your opinion then why even complain about Ohio st. not playing a road game. You made no point at all there. Very few top BCS teams play 1 or more than 1 true road non-conference games. Yet you tried and failed to make a point about Ohio St. not doing it.

That is just not true. While they rarely play more than 1 road game, they do play at least 1. I have the same complaint for Georgia, South Carolina and LSU as I do for Ohio St. They need to play at least 1 non-conference road game. I am not letting any of those teams off the hook for failing to schedule a non-conference road game. They all have to do better. Why should I excuse Ohio St just because those other teams did the same thing? And I am taking South Carolina off that list because they will be playing Clemson. I am not even sure why you included them on that list.

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If you are trying to tell me that an undefeated OSU didn't deserve to play in the 06 title game you are even more clueless than I thought. Who cares what happened in their respective bowl games. You are going to single that out. OSU has been pretty good in BCS games overall but yet you want to single out 2006. You are seriously just a hater at this point and nothing more. OSU haters love to bring up 2006 but don't bring up 2002, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010(yeah I know it didn't count but we all saw what happened). If anyone is making points and then backtracking it's you. You keep making these points and then in your next post soften your stance on something like being undefeated doesn't matter and now you say it does.

I never said being undefeated doesn't matter. I said Ohio St being undefeated this year does not matter to me because I've watched them play and who they played. That matters along with their record when I compare them to the other teams this year. I would take some of those 1 loss teams over them.

If there were 4 undefeated teams, then how do you distinguish between who deserves to be in the BCS championship game. You look at who they played and how they played. I do the same thing and don't automatically promote some team just because they are undefeated if other teams look better and played a tougher schedule. I know college football.

rocboy22 · 11-21-2012

none of this matters. who cares how good Ohio St is? They got caught cheating and are ineligible - and to me, invisible.

**BrAinPaiNt** · 11-21-2012

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none of this matters. who cares how good Ohio St is? They got caught cheating and are ineligible - and to me, invisible.

This...they can hem and haw all they want but Ohio State cheated and are paying the price for it.

burmafrd · 11-21-2012

hey guys what is that dorky looking symbol that is next to this thread in the Sports Zone?