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11-21-2012
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#16
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at least we know harris will block better and know the plays better than oglefail. now lets see if he can get separation.
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11-21-2012
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#17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaede
And so continues the process of only replacing ineffective veterans when they get hurt.
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Ah great point!
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11-21-2012
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#18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aven8
Still think Harris would be fantastic in motion out of the backfield, and on screens, etc. Percy Harvin type role. Swing pass, bubble screen. I could go on and on. Why do the coaches not see this?
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I agree. It's what he did in college too. I remember his highlights were full of WR screens.
They got the ball in hands any way they could.
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11-21-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
LONG OVERDUE
time to plant the tree SOMEWHERE ELSE
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11-21-2012
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#20
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Former NFL Towel Boy John Clayton
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Albany, NY |
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Seems like only yesterday we were having the Kevin Ogletree coming out party against the Gints.
Dez Bryant, Receiver. A man who's season is over. Gentlemen, the Cowboy's staff can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first super human receiver.
Dez Bryant will be that man. Better than he was before. Better.... Stronger..... Faster......
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11-21-2012
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmq
Seems like only yesterday we were having the Kevin Ogletree coming out party against the Gints.
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seems like a million years ago to me due to the fact he has disappeared ever since
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11-21-2012
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#22
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Location: | New York, NY |
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We have bigger issues than #3 WR.
Harris will have little impact with our OL, lack of running game, and play calling.
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11-21-2012
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#23
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Guess I'm not down on OTree as others. He is the 3rd WR who plays with Witten, Dez and Austin primarty targets and yet has 25 catches on the season and on pace for 40 catches that would pretty much be the same numbers that Crayton produced as a 3rd WR.
If Harris can come in and do a better job then great but seems this is more agenda driven than based in facts. People talk of Crayton as if he was some great 3rd WR the numbers do not bear it out any more than OTree.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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11-21-2012
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#24
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Waves that make you sea-sick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Guess I'm not down on OTree as others. He is the 3rd WR who plays with Witten, Dez and Austin primarty targets and yet has 25 catches on the season and on pace for 40 catches that would pretty much be the same numbers that Crayton produced as a 3rd WR.
If Harris can come in and do a better job then great but seems this is more agenda driven than based in facts. People talk of Crayton as if he was some great 3rd WR the numbers do not bear it out any more than OTree.
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Perception is reality
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11-21-2012
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aven8
Still think Harris would be fantastic in motion out of the backfield, and on screens, etc. Percy Harvin type role. Swing pass, bubble screen. I could go on and on. Why do the coaches not see this?
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Harris is nowhere near as fast or shifty as Harvin.
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11-21-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Guess I'm not down on OTree as others. He is the 3rd WR who plays with Witten, Dez and Austin primarty targets and yet has 25 catches on the season and on pace for 40 catches that would pretty much be the same numbers that Crayton produced as a 3rd WR.
If Harris can come in and do a better job then great but seems this is more agenda driven than based in facts. People talk of Crayton as if he was some great 3rd WR the numbers do not bear it out any more than OTree.
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I'm not falling for it this time.
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11-21-2012
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dogunwo
Perception is reality
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You have some who get on a anti player kick and never get off it. Fact is as a 3rd WR Tree is producing at the same rate Crayton did. I have no issue with getting Harris in there and really look forward to seeing him get playing time.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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11-21-2012
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#28
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Save the Snow Leopard
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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I'm not that down on OT as much as I'd like to see better route running. If you have three WRs on the field together it is much better for all of them to present problems for them to defend.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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11-21-2012
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ufcrules1
I'm not falling for it this time.
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I don't care what you fall for or not, fact is this season Tree was putting up the numbers we were getting from Crayton when he was here. As a 3rd WR with Witten, Dez and Miles, Tree is not a top option in the passing tree.
I have no doubt he can be replaced and would not have an issue if he is not with us next season should Harris and Beasly show they can do the job. But fans and their own agenda do not always come with facts.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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11-21-2012
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
Location: | Rochester, NY |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Guess I'm not down on OTree as others. He is the 3rd WR who plays with Witten, Dez and Austin primarty targets and yet has 25 catches on the season and on pace for 40 catches that would pretty much be the same numbers that Crayton produced as a 3rd WR.
If Harris can come in and do a better job then great but seems this is more agenda driven than based in facts. People talk of Crayton as if he was some great 3rd WR the numbers do not bear it out any more than OTree.
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i think crayton just seemed more reliable and made more plays. here are first down catch stats for crayton:
04 - 7
05- 15
06- 28
07- 33
08- 24
09- 27
otree:
09- 5
10- 2
11- 11
12 - 14
2012 isn't over yet, but otree is on pace for 22 first down catches this year
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