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Old 11-21-2012   #31
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no, we wouldn't have.

this team had brockers set to go had we stayed where we were.

at 45 they were going to take bobby wagner ANOTHER ILB.
people laughed when that was brought up but truth is he has been outstanding for the seahags.

the top OT was kalil but he went even before our trade up.
the NEXT OT was Riley Reiff at pick 23.
And he doesnt even start. On a team beleaguered in every way.
Wagner was on my pet cat list so I didn't laugh. I said after the draft that if the only choice I had was Claiborne or Brockers and Wagner, give me the latter.

Nothing against Morris. As cornerbacks go, I like him. He just does not address the fatal flaws with this team.

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of course just maybe some of those so called busts (for anyone that believes PFF garbage) just might have landed in places not right for them or have mediocre coaches.

But mostly those whining about those that wanted to take O line high are those that have been claiming that Jerruh did all he could and all that he needed to do this offseason to fix the o line. Some of them even claim the O line only needs time to become just fine. No real need to do anything else
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That's right. We should have started the process last offseason. I simply can't wrap my head around any of you guys who watch this team so religiously disagreeing that we needed a different plan last spring.

Is this CB fetish so intense that you don't mind seeing your franchise QB molested on every snap?
I see a lot of franchise QB's get molested on every snap... Like Rodgers and still win.
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do you like anything about this team?
The QB. The coaching staff with the exception of the ST coach. Ware, Witten, Carter, Lee, Tyron.

A few things.

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That's right. We should have started the process last offseason. I simply can't wrap my head around any of you guys who watch this team so religiously disagreeing that we needed a different plan last spring.

Is this CB fetish so intense that you don't mind seeing your franchise QB molested on every snap?
do you even think AT ALL before you post?
they DID start the process last year.
they used pick 9 overall on an OT.

they followed that by signing two starting OL this year.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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The QB. The coaching staff with the exception of the ST coach. Ware, Witten, Carter, Lee, Tyron.

A few things.
i thank you thats at least something.
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I see a lot of franchise QB's get molested on every snap... Like Rodgers and still win.
or get broken like Carr was; or put on IR or nearly so like Romo was last season.

Amazing the lengths some will go to defend their belief that the only thing this O line needs to become a top 10 line is just time
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do you even think AT ALL before you post?
they DID start the process last year.
they used pick 9 overall on an OT.

they followed that by signing two starting OL this year.
you mean the two bargain basement FAs we got this year?

Just how well is that going?
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no, we wouldn't have.

this team had brockers set to go had we stayed where we were.

at 45 they were going to take bobby wagner ANOTHER ILB.
people laughed when that was brought up but truth is he has been outstanding for the seahags.

the top OT was kalil but he went even before our trade up.
the NEXT OT was Riley Reiff at pick 23.
And he doesnt even start. On a team beleaguered in every way.
Ah, I completely forgot about taking Wagner in the 2nd round. This just reinforces the idea that Dallas had no intention of drafting offensive linemen.
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do you even think AT ALL before you post?
they DID start the process last year.
they used pick 9 overall on an OT.

they followed that by signing two starting OL this year.
I was talking about last offseason. Tyron was two offseasons ago.

You SHOULD read MORE carefully.

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You seem to forget that this team lost 5 games last year when leading in the 4th quarter. The secondary/defense WAS A FATAL FLAW. We lose more then a few games because of it. Fortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Realistically you can't settle everything in one off season, it's just not possible. Teams like the Pats do an awesome job of having someone waiting in the wings, but most teams aren't like that.
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Ah, I completely forgot about taking Wagner in the 2nd round. This just reinforces the idea that Dallas had no intention of drafting offensive linemen.
Jerruh probably feels he took such a huge step in drafting Tyron that he does not need to use a first or second rd pick again for another four or five years at least
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I think we all agree now that the offensive line is the weak link of this team.

Most all of us were screaming this off season for quality upgrades there.
actually i remember everyone screaming that our O line AND secondary was the primary reason this team underachieved last season.....they fixed the secondary and thought Smith, Costa and Free could get them by this season pared with a rotation of other guys...., i dont think anyone knew Costa would be hurt all year, and that Free would regress this drastically...and frankly im a little underwhelmed by Smith at LT so far (i do believe he will develop into a good one though)....if they would have not picked Mo, then we would be watching Scandrick get abused on a weekly basis and praying he nor Carr would get injured...Romo helps his O line...no one helps the secondary.....Im hopeful next off season will be dedicated to the lines and the 3 year plan will be in gear...
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Jerruh probably feels he took such a huge step in drafting Tyron that he does not need to use a first or second rd pick again for another four or five years at least
You're probably right about that.

I wonder why his VP of Personnel doesn't step in and tell him differently?

Oh. That's right.

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You seem to forget that this team lost 5 games last year when leading in the 4th quarter. The secondary/defense WAS A FATAL FLAW. We lose more then a few games because of it. Fortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. Realistically you can't settle everything in one off season, it's just not possible. Teams like the Pats do an awesome job of having someone waiting in the wings, but most teams aren't like that.
we also had an O line that put our starting QB in the hospital and had 19 sacks in December alone. Frankly anyone that did not consider the O line as least as big a need is a jerruh clone
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