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11-21-2012
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Originally Posted by rocboy22
I agree. It doesnt matter how many guys you have in coverage when the Qb has pretty much ALL DAY to find someone open. Seriously, I think there are times when 10 seconds goes by before the QB throws it, and thats not because he is gonna get hit. Its because he has found an open man. It seems the other teams' o-lines would be able to keep those 3 guys away for minutes!!! - or forever!!
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5 on 3 is a losing battle up front.
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11-21-2012
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#47
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The Funcooker
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I think they have more dropped & dimissed (due to penalty) INTs than actual INTs.
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11-21-2012
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#48
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Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze
This is the part that is constantly ignored, defense is a team game. It takes dominate players at every level of your D to really make it a dominate unit that can all of a sudden cause turnovers and score points.
Teams do make their own luck though, I'm sure Chicago won't be giving any of those wins back cause their D is lucky. We could use upgrades along the front 7 and at safety before we can really say that we can cause our own luck.
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Maybe but turnovers aren't a sure thing every week. The bears got taken apart by the niners.. there is some luck involved.
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11-21-2012
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocboy22
I agree. It doesnt matter how many guys you have in coverage when the Qb has pretty much ALL DAY to find someone open. Seriously, I think there are times when 10 seconds goes by before the QB throws it, and thats not because he is gonna get hit. Its because he has found an open man. It seems the other teams' o-lines would be able to keep those 3 guys away for minutes!!! - or forever!!
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if you expressed this opinion 5 months ago on this board you would have been ripped to pieces.
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11-21-2012
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#50
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Originally Posted by Zordon
if you expressed this opinion 5 months ago on this board you would have been ripped to pieces.
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Why we are talking 3 man rush that is a bit different than sending 4 to 5 rushers. Any QB given enough time will find an open man. On the flip side Defensive front will tell you if a CB can give them a spilt second more by taking away the 1st or 2nd option on a pass rout the DL can get there to make the sack.
It is not one or the other, you need a rush but you better have good coverage as well.
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11-21-2012
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#51
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Why we are talking 3 man rush that is a bit different than sending 4 to 5 rushers. Any QB given enough time will find an open man. On the flip side Defensive front will tell you if a CB can give them a spilt second more by taking away the 1st or 2nd option on a pass rout the DL can get there to make the sack.
It is not one or the other, you need a rush but you better have good coverage as well.
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Never understood why both can't be seen, seems like around here we have to choose sides.
A combo of both coverage and pass rush makes for a good D, shouldn't be that hard to understand.
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11-21-2012
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#52
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when did last place become leading?
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11-22-2012
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#53
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Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy
Shouldn't the title of this thread be:
Cowboys are last in the league in interceptions?
How do you lead from behind?
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Hey, c'mon. It makes for a better thread title when the last place is first place and first place is last place. We win at losing, Cajun. Get with the program!
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11-22-2012
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#54
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Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
I really feel like I could play opposite Ware 800 snaps a season and stumble into a sack or four.
It's almost as if these guys are trying to not get to the quarterback.
Turnovers are a result of QBs being uncomfortable and being forced to do things they don't want to do. Outside of 94, no one is getting that done, whether they're playing against all pro tackles, third string practice squad bodies, JAGs, doesn't matter - Dallas' pass rush is going to get stoned no matter who they go up against. It's really uncanny.
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Put down the pipe, Humphrey.
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11-22-2012
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#55
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Originally Posted by Zman5
It probably has to do with the fact we are always playing from behind.
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Uh no. I don't know what games you've been watching. But it's not like we've been behind all the time. And rarely behind by much.
And on top of that we've had top 5 offense in recent years...playing with the lead...and still had the exact same issue: bottom of the league in INTs.
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11-22-2012
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I have to wonder if it's Jerry. I'm not joking. It *might* really start with him.
He may convey to the DCs and the secondary coaches that he doesn't like a high risk type approach.
Think about it. We are currently watching Rex Ryan rush only 3, 4 guys a lot of the time...And rarely is he bringing 5, 6.
Jerry may be pushing for defensive conservatism across the board.
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11-22-2012
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#57
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This is really not this hard of a problem to figure out guys, when you absolutely suck at rushing the passer, an NFL caliber QB is not going to throw picks.
Picks come from the QB being rushed, hit, hurried, ect.....very few NFL QBs with a clean pocket are going to be throwing the ball straight to a defender.
Thats why when you look at the top defensive units in the league, the one thing they can all do is rush the passer. Until we fix this problem, we are not going to get picks.
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11-22-2012
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#58
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Lead the league in least amount of interceptions.............
Is that another way of saying "fewest"?
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11-22-2012
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#59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze
This is the part that is constantly ignored, defense is a team game. It takes dominate players at every level of your D to really make it a dominate unit that can all of a sudden cause turnovers and score points.
Teams do make their own luck though, I'm sure Chicago won't be giving any of those wins back cause their D is lucky. We could use upgrades along the front 7 and at safety before we can really say that we can cause our own luck.
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So you need dominate players at every level of your D to create turnovers?
The following is a list of the players who started nearly all of the last eight games of 2010.
Igor Olshansky, Jay Ratcliff, Marcus Spears, Anthony Spencer, Brady James, Keith Brooking, DeMarcus Ware, Gerald Sensabaugh, Alan Ball, Terence Newman, Mike Jenkins
In those eight games the defense generated 20 turnovers.
Give me the names of all the dominant players on that group?
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11-22-2012
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#60
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Maybe it's our rush 3/drop 8/soft zone defense Rob Ryan seems to LOVE. Problem is opposing Qb's also love it.
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