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11-23-2012
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Believe!!!!
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Better not be true.
A real head coach needs to be able to build his own staff.
This kind of stupid reasoning is what keeps good coaches away.
Parcells came because he had full control, build it his way and he did.
We won't get another good one until the same situation exists.
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11-23-2012
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#17
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Run-loving Dino
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Originally Posted by Gaede
His attitude has changed dramatically in recent weeks. We've all seen this before from Jerry. First, it's 'no way' then it's 'well, i don't think he should be fired' then it's 'he needs to do better' and finally, 'we'd like to thank ____ for his hard work, but we've decided to go in another direction'
Keep losing and he's gone.
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Ed Werder, who has been a close Jerry observer for 20 years now, also thinks there was a big change in Jerry's postgame demeanor last night.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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11-23-2012
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#18
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
Would it shock anyone?
Jerry is basically the HC whos been switching OC/DCs for the last 6-7 years.
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11-23-2012
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Dec 2006 |
Location: | InAVanByTheRiver |
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Originally Posted by proline
I just don't see Jerry giving up on Garrett so soon.
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If he had his choice, he would give Jason another year. but
as much as Jerry loves Garrett; Jerry loves Jerry more.....and he would throw his own mother under the bus, to "stir the pot". He is beginning to feel the heat from fans and media.....and worst of all, his ego is being bruised.
DALLAS COWBOYS
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11-23-2012
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#20
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Southeast, Unite |
Posts: | 17,491 |
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Originally Posted by Sabu1
If jones hires a new coach based on the pretenses of keeping some assistant coaches, then he might as well keep garrett. What will be the difference? And i seriously doubt that a change the culture type coach will come here with these shackles already in place. All you hear about jones is that he's willing to spend the money, and now he gets cheap with coaches? Being a fan of this franchise is sooooooo frustrating.
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^ This ^
If you're not going to let a new coach pick his own staff, you might as well just keep Garrett.
Doing otherwise would just send a message that you're already undermining the new coach's authority.
We're screwed. 
"Jason Garrett will have the Cowboys in the NFC Championship Game within three years." - Tyke1doe, August 19, 2011
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11-23-2012
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#21
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A Work in Progress
Joined: | Apr 2008 |
Location: | University Place |
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Originally Posted by tyke1doe
^ This ^
If you're not going to let a new coach pick his own staff, you might as well just keep Garrett.
Doing otherwise would just send a message that you're already undermining the new coach's authority.
We're screwed. 
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Exactly. Which is why I've felt all this talk about firing Garrett and bringing in Payton/Holmgren/whoever was irrelevant. As long as Jerry is in charge, it won't matter who the head coach is. If he's weak, he won't succeed. If he's strong, he'll be frustrated from constantly being undermined.
There's always more to the story.
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11-23-2012
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#22
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Banned
Joined: | Jul 2012 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FiveRings
This is a positive thread for me, it hints at Garrett losing his job and our assistant coaches aren't really bad. I wouldn't hate to lose Ryan but if it means pulling in Gruden I could care less
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Any coaching change that doesn't result in the new head coach getting to pick his entire staff is doomed for failure. Mr. Jones should have no say in who a new head coach has on staff. It is the head coaches staff. This has been the problem since Coach Johnson left.
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11-23-2012
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#23
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | York PA |
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Here's the problem, imo. Jerry Jones is a man divided.
There's Fan Jerry. He's almost certainly reacting like most of us today; mad as heck as the inexplicable losses mount up, mad as heck when he sees Romo do a QB sneak on a first down, when he sees the game-killing, absurd penalties continue unabated every week, and mad as heck when he's confronted with mounting evidence that JG is totally in over his head. So, Fan Jerry probably rants and raves as we do, only not publicly. Well . . . at least not until he's ready.
Then there's GM/Owner Jerry. Owner Jerry is trying to be more diplomatic and patient, all the while bewildered by the regression. Owner Jerry wisely realizes that frequent head coaching changes are not a good thing. He doesn't want to make another costly mistake. Therefore, he'll be slow to admit that hiring JG was a mistake. So, Owner Jerry will be careful to say the right things to the media, all the while rehearsing a "You're Fired" Speech.
After yesterday's debacle, enquiring minds(me) want to know if there has finally been a come-to-Peter meeting between Fan Jerry and Owner Jerry. I believe there has. What are the implications of that meeting? That Owner Jerry will fire Red immediately? No. He'll wait until the season plays out. That Fan Jerry might put out some feelers to SP, or MH before the season ends? Yes, I believe he will.
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11-23-2012
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#24
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Senior Member
Joined: | Sep 2006 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theebs
Better not be true.
A real head coach needs to be able to build his own staff.
This kind of stupid reasoning is what keeps good coaches away.
Parcells came because he had full control, build it his way and he did.
We won't get another good one until the same situation exists.
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Good point-Jimmy brought his own staff in from Miami with him-and it worked out well 
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11-23-2012
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#25
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Senior Member
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I'm going to pretend I didn't read this. It would be another completely horrific decision from the owner. No head coach should ever have his staff dictated to him.
Hopefully Tom Ciskowski changes his mind about this.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-23-2012
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#26
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
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Originally Posted by dallasdave
Good point-Jimmy brought his own staff in from Miami with him-and it worked out well 
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It worked out better than you're willing to admit.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-23-2012
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2012 |
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Nope. Clear out all the losers.
Get rid of the Garretts in the front office.
Airbrush Jason out of team pictures.
No trace stays around.
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11-23-2012
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#28
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Old bulletproof tiger
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 11,515 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
Would it shock anyone?
Jerry is basically the HC whos been switching OC/DCs for the last 6-7 years.
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Oh man this crap never gets old. Spinnsters sitting at home w/ all the skuttle and know of the Dallas Cowboys.
I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
~ BoB Stoops
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11-23-2012
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
Hopefully Tom Ciskowski changes his mind about this.
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LOL..
My signature is, and will always remain, nothing more than a special thanks to all those who host, moderate, post articles, post thoughts, or whom otherwise contribute to this forum.
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11-23-2012
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2004 |
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Would this really surprise anybody if it were true?
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