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Old 11-24-2012   #31
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So, did giving him 12 weeks to see if he would work out keep them from signing some fabulous free agent who would have won them half a dozen more games? I understand that this season has been frustrating, but people on here have lost their minds. He's a bottom of the roster player that they tried for a few months and then moved on from. Every single team in the league has a few projects going all the time. It's part of how you build a roster in the salary cap era.

There are frustrating things about this team, Andre Holmes has not been one of them.
You responded before I'd finished my edit, but it doesn't matter. Guys like this don't make other teams rosters. Just because he's done absolutely nothing doesn't mean it isn't frustrating. Why isn't Matt Johnson on IR? This team is not run by fundamentally sound football people. Glaringly obvious.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

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[quote=Kilyin;4860181]Why isn't Matt Johnson on IR?[/QUOTE

He is on IR
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You responded before I'd finished my edit, but it doesn't matter. Guys like this don't make other teams rosters. Just because he's done... absolutely nothing doesn't mean it isn't frustrating. Why isn't Matt Johnson on IR? This team is not run by fundamentally sound football people. Glaringly obvious.
Matt Johnson is on IR I think.
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Guys like this don't make other teams rosters.
Are you seriously suggesting that other team's don't take on projects? The guy had size and speed, and according to most off-season reports he put in a lot of effort at getting better. Isn't that what you want from young guys at the bottom of the roster?
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Are you seriously suggesting that other team's don't take on projects? The guy had size and speed, and according to most off-season reports he put in a lot of effort at getting better. Isn't that what you want from young guys at the bottom of the roster?
He made the team because he was one of Jerry's pet cats. He could have made it to the practice squad this year if they wanted to give him a shot to prove himself, but Jerry had him pegged as the #3 receiver before training camp even started. That's what is so frustrating.....
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Matt Johnson is on IR I think.
Yeah, just put there within the last week or so. It took how long to figure out this guy wasn't going to see the field this year?
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Matt Johnson is on IR I think.
Okay, he was put on IR Nov 17th, guess I missed that. Why did it take so long? Meanwhile, we have Bernadeau playing Center. And we haven't had a 'starting' center since week 1.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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He made the team because he was one of Jerry's pet cats. He could have made it to the practice squad this year if they wanted to give him a shot to prove himself, but Jerry had him pegged as the #3 receiver before training camp even started. That's what is so frustrating.....
Is there someone they cut you would rather have? I mean it looks to me like they had a whole lot of unknown guys vying for #3 receiver spot, and they let that spot sort itself out throughout the season. Given that every other possible #3 receiver has shown something by this point, they cut the odd man out. I doubt it's a coincidence that Holmes gets cut two days after Cole and Dwayne Harris emerge as legitimate receiving threats.

It's also quite possible that the coaches liked Holmes and that's why JJ was optimistic about him and why he got a roster spot. Again, what team hasn't had a project not work out? You'd think with the outrage about this guy that they had given him a $30 million contract or something.
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You responded before I'd finished my edit, but it doesn't matter. Guys like this don't make other teams rosters. Just because he's done absolutely nothing doesn't mean it isn't frustrating. Why isn't Matt Johnson on IR? This team is not run by fundamentally sound football people. Glaringly obvious.
Johnson is on IR. But dont let that stop you. You know what your talking about. Keep bashing others for not knowing whats going on.
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Johnson is on IR. But dont let that stop you. You know what your talking about. Keep bashing others for not knowing whats going on.
I haven't 'bashed' anyone. Go ahead and show me where I did that. I could show you posts from me in August predicting Johnson would end up on the PS or IR. Then in the early weeks of the season I questioned why he wasn't on IR. The bottom line is this team makes stupid, myopic decisions every year and it's a big reason why we're perennial losers.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "

"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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what does it take for Olgetree to be cut.....
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what does it take for Olgetree to be cut.....
not this season unless jerry jones quit's
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Johnson is on IR. But dont let that stop you. You know what your talking about. Keep bashing others for not knowing whats going on.
His point was that our front office has no idea what it is doing. For those who don't turn a blind eye it is obvious.
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lol, that dude was still on the roster? The fact that it took till this point in the season for a nobody giving absolutely nothing to the team to get cut just speaks volumes about the protection afforded to Jerry's personal pets.
Bingo.

That was the only reason he was around in the first place. He had that twinkle in Jerry's eye firing on all cylinders.
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Okay, he was put on IR Nov 17th, guess I missed that. Why did it take so long? Meanwhile, we have Bernadeau playing Center. And we haven't had a 'starting' center since week 1.
Considering he was signed as a G, our starting C is still hurt and our backup is as well, we're pretty lucky he's playing fairly well.
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