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Old 11-25-2012   #31
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He's the guy in charge. Jerry himself said that another GM that had the same results over the last 15 years probably would've been fired by now
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Old 11-25-2012   #32
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Without question yes. The jones family does not know what they are doing and it shows every week.

And they know that everyone knows it too. That is why they have not shown any of the jones family on the video board during the last two games.

They are in charge. They are on the tv and the radio every day selling something. They can't stop promoting and sugar costing everything.

They hired an unqualified head coach, gave him too much power and asked too much of him.

Now it's all in the tank, again during the best part of the year, again.

The only way to fix this is to turn over authority of football operations to qualified people and get out of the way and out of the media.

Everyone knows it and so do they. Now we just wait to see how truly ignorant and arrogant the are.

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Old 11-25-2012   #33
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Remember how psyched we all were when Jerry got Roy Williams? I do. We were all pumped.

Roy flopped, and we all blamed Jerry.
Dude, I was not psyched. I wanted to throw up. A first and third round pick for Roy Williams? No other GM is that stupid.

Re. Callahan: He's worked this season w/out the guy who was supposed to be center. Besides that he's had to plug in four guys off the street.

The o-line situ is ALL ON JERRY and a few months ago he even admitted it.

Jerry is a hapless, addled 70+ year old part-time GM who is showing up to work hungover...and he leaves for 3 hour lunches to enjoy w/ celebrities...The results reflect it.

Our front office is a complete unmitigated train wreck.
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Old 11-25-2012   #34
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What is with the complaining with Callahan? The masses realized that complaining about Garrett would do nothing so now you want the next head? There's no talent on the line outside of Smith and it's ravaged ny injuries to boot. There's NOTHING an O Line coach can do about that
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What is with the complaining with Callahan? The masses realized that complaining about Garrett would do nothing so now you want the next head? There's no talent on the line outside of Smith and it's ravaged ny injuries to boot. There's NOTHING an O Line coach can do about that
Smith honestly hasn't shown that much himself, for that matter.
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Without question yes. The jones family does not know what they are doing and it shows every week.

And they know that everyone knows it too. That is why they have not shown any of the jones family on the video board during the last two games.

They are in charge. They are on the tv and the radio every day selling something. They can't stop promoting and sugar costing everything.

They hired an unqualified head coach, gave him too much power and asked too much of him.

Now it's all in the tank, again during the best part of the year, again.

The only way to fix this is to turn over authority of football operations to qualified people and get out of the way and out of the media.

Everyone knows it and so do they. Now we just wait to see how truly ignorant and arrogant the are.

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Very solid post.

And it would be one thing if the team had a consistent solid approach. Had an idenity which kept the team in the hunt most of the time like Ravens, Steelers, Pats.....and the 49ers are on the verge of. But we are all over the the place with ZERO sustained success at anything we try...and no hope in the near future.

This is WHY a COMPLETE change must take place. A COMPLETE culture change must take place. Jerry is the face of the franchise. And has been since the constant losing has taken place. He is arrogant, stubborn, and insecure. He KNOWS he got this organization in this mess.....and IF/WHEN we get out, he wants to be the person most responsible.....which is why he has dug in and we have no choice but to sit back and watch the circus.

Even if the noise got too loud....he would just turn it over to his son....and not much would change.

Strap in folks.....this is going to be a while
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I read an article by Cowlishaw, and it got me thinking.

We must admit that Jerry spends money on top players. The coaches have to coach them.

JG was the next young offensive genius, and Jerry paid him to stay.

Rob Ryan was the hot coach, and Jerry went out and got him.

Now who's to say that Bill Callahan went into the offseason telling Jerry and everyone else that our lineman had talent and that he could work with them?

Jerry has been getting the blame for our O line, but maybe, just maybe Callahan is the person to blame.

I'm not defending Jerry, but he spends money so this team can win.

Remember how psyched we all were when Jerry got Roy Williams? I do. We were all pumped.

Roy flopped, and we all blamed Jerry.

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If we were only talking about this season then I might agree with you but this crap has been going on for nearly 2 decades now!

Face it people, THE problem IS Jerry Jones.
Captain Nathan Brittles: "Only the man who commands can be blamed. It rests on me... mission failure!"

"Jerry Jones is a billionaire fan who bought his own team for the express purpose of buying his way into the game. He wants to hang out with the players, stand in front of the cameras, be the face of the team (yech), make personnel moves as if this were a video game, and more than anything else, be seen as the guy who made it all happen."

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I read an article by Cowlishaw, and it got me thinking.

We must admit that Jerry spends money on top players. The coaches have to coach them.

JG was the next young offensive genius, and Jerry paid him to stay.

Rob Ryan was the hot coach, and Jerry went out and got him.

Now who's to say that Bill Callahan went into the offseason telling Jerry and everyone else that our lineman had talent and that he could work with them?

Jerry has been getting the blame for our O line, but maybe, just maybe Callahan is the person to blame.


I'm not defending Jerry, but he spends money so this team can win.

Remember how psyched we all were when Jerry got Roy Williams? I do. We were all pumped.

Roy flopped, and we all blamed Jerry.

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PSYCHED we got Roy Willaims? NO ONE was psyched. Jerry got sent to the woodshed in that deal.. It was a horrible trade. WE gave up way too mch and paid him way too much money for an average at BEST WR.. That was an awful awful trade.. NO ONE was psychced.
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Blaming Callahan on our OL problems is a cop out....
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I read an article by Cowlishaw, and it got me thinking.

We must admit that Jerry spends money on top players. The coaches have to coach them.

JG was the next young offensive genius, and Jerry paid him to stay.

Rob Ryan was the hot coach, and Jerry went out and got him.

Now who's to say that Bill Callahan went into the offseason telling Jerry and everyone else that our lineman had talent and that he could work with them?

Jerry has been getting the blame for our O line, but maybe, just maybe Callahan is the person to blame.

I'm not defending Jerry, but he spends money so this team can win.

Remember how psyched we all were when Jerry got Roy Williams? I do. We were all pumped.

Roy flopped, and we all blamed Jerry.

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absolutely jerry should be getting the bulk of the blame

listen to jerry's interviews and you will realize that he is not one that takes kindly to dissenting voices so he surrounds himself with weak, 'yes-men' or at a minimum people who tell him what he wants to hear (the emperor has no clothes)

also, jerry has an extremely inflated ego and believes that he is a "football guy" so he listens to all advice through a filter

callahan is likely to tell him what he wants to hear and even if callahan has the cojones to tell him the truth (which i seriously doubt) jerry is likely to chalk it up to "i know better"

jerry is the straw that stirs the drink in dallas, so no wonder it tastes like crap

basically jerry is al davis on steroids

by the way.. a lot us hated the RW deals and were certainly not "psyched" about it

paying a 1 and 3 for a WR that you could get 3 months later with no draft picks attached is the epitome of idiocy
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Without question yes. The jones family does not know what they are doing and it shows every week.

And they know that everyone knows it too. That is why they have not shown any of the jones family on the video board during the last two games.

They are in charge. They are on the tv and the radio every day selling something. They can't stop promoting and sugar costing everything.

They hired an unqualified head coach, gave him too much power and asked too much of him.

Now it's all in the tank, again during the best part of the year, again.

The only way to fix this is to turn over authority of football operations to qualified people and get out of the way and out of the media.

Everyone knows it and so do they. Now we just wait to see how truly ignorant and arrogant the are.

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This is all true. However, it is highly unlikely that Jerry will see the light now, or ever. Although I don't blame JG for being inexperienced and ill equipped to handle the coaching reins, has to go nonetheless. For now, the best move that we can hope for is for Jerry to hire a real HC. He picked Jimmy, he picked Parcells, he can do the right thing one more time...
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This is all true. However, it is highly unlikely that Jerry will see the light now, or ever. Although I don't blame JG for being inexperienced and ill equipped to handle the coaching reins, has to go nonetheless. For now, the best move that we can hope for is for Jerry to hire a real HC. He picked Jimmy, he picked Parcells, he can do the right thing one more time...

that is our only hope.

This team is most likley finishing 5-11 or 6-10.

the final three home games will probably be losses with the steelers and saints fans all over the stadium.

They already have to hide garrett and the jones's from the crowd now, by the end of the season it will be obvious to the jones family as it is to everyone else.

With three home games like this to finish the final five there is no hiding for jerry. National exposure and alot of egg on his face is coming up.

they have to change or at least appear to and hire a real head coach.
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Smith honestly hasn't shown that much himself, for that matter.
That's what happens when you use the #9 pick in the draft to take a college RT and try and make him a LT.

Another mistake on the FO. Draft football players and not projects. It's 50/50 that Smith will make a good LT. Not good odds for the #9 pick in the draft.

Jones is terrible as a GM, but until he is gone that's what we are stuck with. At the best 8-8 seasons.

I don't go to games or buy merchandise so I can honestly say I don't contribute to this mess. If fans would stop, JJ would get the message. Booing his picture does nothing.
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that is our only hope.

This team is most likley finishing 5-11 or 6-10.

the final three home games will probably be losses with the steelers and saints fans all over the stadium.

They already have to hide garrett and the jones's from the crowd now, by the end of the season it will be obvious to the jones family as it is to everyone else.

With three home games like this to finish the final five there is no hiding for jerry. National exposure and alot of egg on his face is coming up.

they have to change or at least appear to and hire a real head coach.
amen.
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that is our only hope.

This team is most likley finishing 5-11 or 6-10.

the final three home games will probably be losses with the steelers and saints fans all over the stadium.

They already have to hide garrett and the jones's from the crowd now, by the end of the season it will be obvious to the jones family as it is to everyone else.

With three home games like this to finish the final five there is no hiding for jerry. National exposure and alot of egg on his face is coming up.

they have to change or at least appear to and hire a real head coach.
I agree with you but somehow I doubt JJ goes againgst his self imposed 4 year tryout at HC like he did with Wade and Bill. He's always said that he regrets having fired Chan after only 2 seasons. Even the Poodle Campo had 3 years to prove he was worthless. So yes we can see a change needs to be made but I doubt the man in charge sees it that way.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012

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