If Sean Payton comes to Dallas

[Oh_Canada]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Werder knows Payton 1000x better than anyone here, and he says Payton would love to coach here. He loves the area, he likes Jerry, plus he's going through a divorce and his kids are here. And don't underestimate his desire for recognition in turning this team around.

That doesn't mean it will work out, because odds are still that it probably won't. But don't think he wouldn't want to coach this team.

I seem to remember a lot of people saying Parcells wouldn't coach the Cowboys either.

[cowboyfan4life2]

Originally Posted by jgboys1

In order to get Sean Payton, Garrett would have to go and I have news for you guys, Garrett is not going anywhere. He(Garrett),like it our not, will be our head coach next season.

That would be a complete disaster, if that happens, I can see a full scale riot outside of jerry world.

[SDCowboy85]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Werder knows Payton 1000x better than anyone here, and he says Payton would love to coach here. He loves the area, he likes Jerry, plus he's going through a divorce and his kids are here. And don't underestimate his desire for recognition in turning this team around.

That doesn't mean it will work out, because odds are still that it probably won't. But don't think he wouldn't want to coach this team.

Exactly. If people thought turning around one of the most irrelevant franchises in sports in a small city was big, turning around the Cowboys in Dallas would be all time big.

[Yakuza Rich]

Originally Posted by TVMan

Wouldn't this fly in the face of the Rooney rule? The league has already taken money from the Cowboys, how about some draft picks to go along with it?

The Rooney Rule states that you must interview a minority candidate first. All that really happens is that a minority candidate gets interviewed first and if the owner is still intent on hiring a non-minority candidate, they can do so without any rhyme or reason. In this instance, Jerry would have to fire Garrett and interview a minority candidate like a Jerome Henderson and if he still wanted Payton, he could do so without issue and it would not cost them any draft picks or compensation. The same thing happened when we hired Parcells.






YR

[CowboyMcCoy]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I don't know why anybody is so sure that Payton would not come here. Fact is, if he had no intention of coming here, he would have re-signed the same contract with the Saints, just not under Mickey Loomis so the contract would not be void.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that once the NFL voided the contract and considering the lack of success Garrett is having, he sees coaching the Cowboys a possibility. Of course, it comes down to dollars, but he would be STUPID to not at least wait and see what type of offers he can get. The worst that could happen is that he could get offers that he's not interested in and return to the Saints. The best that could happen is that he could get paid much more to coach in Dallas, where he resides (and is an entirely bigger market, thus more money from endorsements).

[View Full Quote]I think the only thing holding it up is Jerry and Garrett. I think Jerry may have difficulty justifying the money spent to get Payton and the money he owes Garrett. Although, from the sounds of it, Jerry makes $10 million from stadium Tours in the *offseason* alone. He also got a Super Bowl at the Stadium and probably will get another in the future along with all of the other venture the stadium will bring.

As far as Loomis goes, I always thought he was more of the financial guy and quite frankly, he didn't do jack squat until Payton got there. There's no way Loomis would come here unless he is fired from the Saints.











YR

Not to mention, the one guy who got the best out of Tony Romo is none other than...drum roll... Sean Payton.

He's coming here!!

[cowboyfan4life2]

1. The Cowboys can pay him more

2. There is a talented qb on the roster, who he has worked with before, and a talented defense in place.


3. If he wins another sb in no, been there done that. If he takes one of the legendary sports franchises who has fallen on hard times lately, and wins a sb, he will be a hero.

4. He probably wants to distance himself from the saints and all the bounty gate crap.

[jgboys1]

Originally Posted by cowboyfan4life2

That would be a complete disaster, if that happens, I can see a full scale riot outside of jerry world.

Get your riot gear ready, beacause it's going to happen.

[rocboy22]

No reason to bring Loomis along. He isn't really a personnel guy, he is a numbers guy. And the reason for the language in payton's contract with NO was to make sure he did not end up reporting to Benson's granddaughter.

edit: and more evidence of Loomis being just the numbers guy: he is now running the Hornets since Benson bought them as well. They have a basketball guy GM under Loomis.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by jgboys1

Get your riot gear ready, beacause it's going to happen.

Jerry has to sale hope. If he brings Garrett back only the homerist of the homers will buy in.


It's his mistake and it's time for him to open up his pocket book and pay the piper.

[SDCowboy85]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I don't know why anybody is so sure that Payton would not come here. Fact is, if he had no intention of coming here, he would have re-signed the same contract with the Saints, just not under Mickey Loomis so the contract would not be void.

Agreed. Also, with rumors flying, if he had no desire to coach in Dallas, he would have already long since shot it down like Holmgren did.

[TVMan]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

The Rooney Rule states that you must interview a minority candidate first. All that really happens is that a minority candidate gets interviewed first and if the owner is still intent on hiring a non-minority candidate, they can do so without any rhyme or reason. In this instance, Jerry would have to fire Garrett and interview a minority candidate like a Jerome Henderson and if he still wanted Payton, he could do so without issue and it would not cost them any draft picks or compensation. The same thing happened when we hired Parcells.


YR

Yes I understand the rule. My point is, would the Cowboys be the first team that the league takes exception with for doing this?

Considering the circumstances.

[theebs]

no chance on mickey loomis the gm.

Jerry has decided Stephen is the most qualified GM he knows and will pass the torch to him.

I am sure it was a tough decision amongst the applicants.
Gene Jones, Charlote Anderson (jones), Stephen Jones and Jerry Jr.

of that group jerry has decided on stephen.

and stephen will be singing the praises of payton and how they worked together under parcells and have a relationship. It will be all too convenient.

I absolutely love the idea of sean payton here, it will be like going back to 03 and having a real football coach in charge and I wouldnt be suprised if some of those old assistants showed up here with him.

guys like Todd bowles, Tony sporano (if the jets clean house). david lee, Gary Gibbs etc.

I imagine gibbs, sporano and bowles are all going to be part of staffs that are fired. Lee is just the qb coach and could be hired under a promotion.

hiring payton would re-energize this whole thing. It would be a complete 180.

[SDCowboy85]

Originally Posted by TVMan

Yes I understand the rule. My point is, would the Cowboys be the first team that the league takes exception with for doing this?

Considering the circumstances.

What do you mean?

[TVMan]

Originally Posted by SDCowboy85

What do you mean?

Not seriously considering a minority candidate for the position. Window dressing if you will. They did it with Parcells. They did it with Garrett.

[theebs]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Werder knows Payton 1000x better than anyone here, and he says Payton would love to coach here. He loves the area, he likes Jerry, plus he's going through a divorce and his kids are here. And don't underestimate his desire for recognition in turning this team around.

That doesn't mean it will work out, because odds are still that it probably won't. But don't think he wouldn't want to coach this team.

I agree, hiring him is not an immediate success story.

but the offense would be better from day one without question. The team itself needs time to be built under a qualified coach.

Investing the time in payton would be worth it.

and Payton accomplished what he wanted in new orleans and has already seen some negative flowback from the home in the sort of dallas area and the bounty gate suspension.

It would be all candy and nuts as romo likes to say for payton here early.

I have zero doubt payton would love to set his mark in this league for ever by winning in Dallas. No matter what anyone says it is different.

The atmosphere at the games used to be so much fun, there was so much optimsm and excitement. Now its just dreadful.

people are underestimating how bad it is. When you realize what a statement it is that jerry, stephen and garrett can not be shown on the video board at home well that should help set it in.

There is no way to resell the garretts and the jones's in the offseason to people who do not even want to see your face on the key marketing device in the stadium. It cant be done.

only winning in december could fix that and this team is going to get killed from here on out.

Sean Payton is the perfect candidate. Its a get out of jail free card in the short term for the jones family and it will sell hope and promise to the fans here. Its a 180 and the only way.