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11-26-2012
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The problem, with respects to Carr IMO, is that we are asking him to play a lot more zone coverage responsibilities then we were earlier in the season. At least it seems to me that we are playing more zone. He is a much better in tight coverage where he can use his strength and short area quickness to be physical. He is not a burner but he is smart and very physical. In fact, both our Corners are probably much better suited to this style of play.
We are just so beat up at Safety and ILB that I think it's dictating more zone and that is not to our advantage.
JMO
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11-26-2012
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I am amazed how many here have a memory half life of about 2 games.
Anthony Henry? Yes, he had more than a handful of interceptions. He was also picked on because he wasn't that good - which led to the occasional interception.
What's next - the Julius Jones remembrance thread?
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11-26-2012
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#18
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Originally Posted by rocyaice
What safety help was Newman and Jenkins getting when they were getting 4 or 5 turnovers? If quarterbacks aren't throwing bad footballs then you aren't going to get INT's. INT's come from when a qb makes a bad throw. Let's just be honest about it.
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What? How often do you see an NFL quarterback not named Tebow actually make a throw so errant that it goes to the DB. Pics come from jumping routes, baiting QBs into making throws etc. in other words, aggressive play, which you can't accomplish when the minute you take a chance on a ball your safety is nowhere to be found and then you're burnt deep.
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11-26-2012
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M'Kevon
I am amazed how many here have a memory half life of about 2 games.
Anthony Henry? Yes, he had more than a handful of interceptions. He was also picked on because he wasn't that good - which led to the occasional interception.
What's next - the Julius Jones remembrance thread?
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A rookie QB just made our prized corners look every bit worse than Anthony Henry ever looked.
Once again. Nobody is saying the guy was a great player. But he did force turnovers. All four years he was here, the defenses he was part of were ranked higher against the pass than this year's D is (save for 2007 -- 219.1 yards per game vs. 219 yards per game this year).
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11-26-2012
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#20
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11-26-2012
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#21
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Look at Kyle Arringont last year. Led league in ints, one of the worst corners in the league.
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11-26-2012
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Originally Posted by Joshmil53
Look at Kyle Arringont last year. Led league in ints, one of the worst corners in the league.
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Went to the Superbowl.
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11-26-2012
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Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING
Went to the Superbowl.
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We're talking defense here, not offense. This board leaves my jaw hanging sometimes.
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11-26-2012
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#24
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Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING
A rookie QB just made our prized corners look every bit worse than Anthony Henry ever looked.
Once again. Nobody is saying the guy was a great player. But he did force turnovers. All four years he was here, the defenses he was part of were ranked higher against the pass than this year's D is (save for 2007 -- 219.1 yards per game vs. 219 yards per game this year).
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I don't think this is fair. A Rookie QB made our Safeties look like what they are. I don't think you can really put that on the CBs, per say. Could they have played better? Of course, there is always room for that but what I was was a team picking on the Safeties and beating the living daylights out of them.
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11-26-2012
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Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
I don't think this is fair. A Rookie QB made our Safeties look like what they are. I don't think you can really put that on the CBs, per say. Could they have played better? Of course, there is always room for that but what I was was a team picking on the Safeties and beating the living daylights out of them.
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Exactly, Mo and Carr together were only targeted 10 some times. I think Mo was 1 for 3 and the catch went for negative and Carr was 4/7 with ~40 yards and a TD. Our corners were amazing that game. Also, Carr had a giftwrapped int that somehow, the receivers who drop everything, came up with huge catches for RG3 Thursday.
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11-26-2012
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I remeber like yesterday....we were choosing between Henry and Antioine Winfield (sp?)...I believe he went to Ohio State....and STILL plays for the Vikings. He would have been the better choice from a production standpoint...but MOST importantly...leadership. He was a physical...fierce competitor.
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11-26-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshmil53
We're talking defense here, not offense. This board leaves my jaw hanging sometimes.
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Right, but you don't think finishing second in the league in INT's as a team helped New England get to the Superbowl?
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11-26-2012
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#28
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I am so glad so many of our fans can only post on the Internet instead of handling any football affairs.
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HAHAHAHAH Hosaroo!
Witty as can be.
I see your point, but to be fair I don't think the original poster's sentiments were too inane. Each and every one of us are wont to subjective perspectives.
Hos in all honesty, if I were Jerry, I would hand-pick you to be in the ring that takes part in the decision making processes for the franchise.
With Hos at the epicenter, this franchise's arrow would be pointing in one direction and one direction only...
       
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11-26-2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rash
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Prison?

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11-26-2012
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING
Right, but you don't think finishing second in the league in INT's as a team helped New England get to the Superbowl?
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The defensive backs certainly deserve credit for that. But you can't discount what having an elite offense does for an average defense. The opposing QBs have to throw as much as, well, Romo. This leads to turnovers in the form of aggressive/forced throws.
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