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11-26-2012
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#151
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If it means that much, I'll look for the post. I can only see the last 4 pages of what he posted.
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11-26-2012
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#152
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Banned
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4 pages only goes back 6 days. Not far enough.
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11-26-2012
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#153
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Kingston Canada |
Posts: | 6,580 |
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Originally Posted by jterrell
I love this type of fan post.
It is what helps me feel superior.
In order to improve this OL we have to add better players and have them stay healthy.
The top 2 OL addition suggestions were DeCastro and Nicks. For them we would have given Carr money and the r1 pick. So we'd have a secondary with Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick splitting reps as health allows and some guy we never heard of on the other side.
For that immense commitment we would have gotten about 9 total games in 2012 out of those 2 guys. Great plan... except reality is we would be picking top 5 in 2013. Same as CLE or SF. Using high picks on the OL almost always means a return to sucksville for a couple seasons. OL selections dont drastically change a team's fortunes.
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Because people are fated to become injured? That's a really ridiculous argument. Because they got injured somewhere else they would've got injured here too? Literally makes no sense at all.
I'm not talking specific players anyways. When did I mention either of those guys? Or what picks to use on which players?
My argument is that Garrett supporters claim that he has revamped the roster and added a lot of young talent. But for some reason he has completely and utterly failed to repair the weakest unit on the team for the past several years and one that prevented this offense from running with any consistency or keeping their QB off of the ground. The reason, Garrett supporters will argue, that their prodigy's offense can't get into the endzone and is routinely stifled by nearly every team. IF Garrett's success is so contigent on this unit (as his supporters will frequently claim), then WHY doesn't he fix it? If he's so great at talent acquisition, why can't he use these powers to fix this achilles heel?
There have plenty of offensive linemen that would have been available to us in the past 3 drafts and free agency that we have not taken advantage of. We place a very low priority on OL, believing we can dumpster dive and coach-up the likes of Arkin, Bernadeau, Brewster, Nagy, Leary, Costa. And make them serviceable. All the while spending the big bucks and picks on people who fans will be able to cheer for during the games. Have our cake and eat it too.
My theory is that Jerry doesn't like using high picks on OL when he can get a sexier position addressed instead. Someone that will put seats in the stadium. Further, I believe that Garrett believes that the OL just needs to be good enough to get by. I believe the inability to properly address the unit is a reflection of his offensive philosophy (which places a low priority on big-grunts)
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11-26-2012
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#154
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Felis silvestris catus
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbers921
If it means that much, I'll look for the post. I can only see the last 4 pages of what he posted.
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You commented on it, so it obviously meant something to you.
Have you found anything to back it up?
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11-26-2012
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#155
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2008 |
Posts: | 2,355 |
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Originally Posted by Bluestang
This is why Hos and other have quit posting here because of the very nonsense that others say.
Catch17 started it by his "winning out" comments and then the other villagers with their pitch forks started chiming in.
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Naw a 5-6, no discipline, team whose coach is in over his head is why some have quit posting. The pump's broke.
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11-26-2012
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#157
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dash28
You commented on it, so it obviously meant something to you.
Have you found anything to back it up?
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There is none because I never said it. At least not in a serious manner. I know I said it joking, but that was not here and everyone knew I was joking.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/czsear...archid=1058718
There's a search parameter for posts by me with "win out."
About halfway down page 1 is my thread from Atlanta. I supposedly said it after that game, so read that thread and all the threads above it.
Notice...I didn't say it. It is a figment of their imaginations and I cannot edit threads here so I didn't magically make it disappear.
I never said it. I doubt this matters to either of them one iota or will make any difference.
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11-26-2012
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#158
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Banned
Joined: | Aug 2012 |
Posts: | 817 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
There is none because I never said it. At least not in a serious manner. I know I said it joking, but that was not here and everyone knew I was joking.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/czsear...archid=1058718
There's a search parameter for posts by me with "win out."
About halfway down page 1 is my thread from Atlanta. I supposedly said it after that game, so read that thread and all the threads above it.
Notice...I didn't say it. It is a figment of their imaginations and I cannot edit threads here so I didn't magically make it disappear.
I never said it. I doubt this matters to either of them one iota or will make any difference.
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Here you go, buddy
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpo...45&postcount=4
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11-26-2012
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#159
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbers921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluestang
This is why Hos and other have quit posting here because of the very nonsense that others say.
Catch17 started it by his "winning out" comments and then the other villagers with their pitch forks started chiming in.
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Originally Posted by rocboy22
what is wrong with people? if you are positive, produce it. otherwise, shut your mouth about other posters. stuff like this is what ruins forums. nobody wants to deal with such tools.
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Originally Posted by Dallas
Hos never said that. You should chill w/ your agenda or provide the direct link where he did say the team would win out.
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11-26-2012
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#160
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2008 |
Posts: | 2,355 |
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Originally Posted by Numbers921
4 pages only goes back 6 days. Not far enough.
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uh oh 921, you've given them something that they can be "right" about. Can't raise the flag on anything else, Garrett, Cowboys making the playoffs, JJ not being a problem, no to all but 921 misquoting Hos, yes. 
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11-26-2012
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#161
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by Numbers921
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LOL
I think we'll run the table from here.
That ought to make some people's undies bunch up.
Clearly was joking don't ya think? If you don't, that's just sad.
I will absolutely give you kudos though because I did not even remember saying that, joke or not.
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11-26-2012
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#162
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Old bulletproof tiger
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 11,515 |
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
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 If you think that post substantiates ANYTHING you were trying to spin previously, you have a LOT of understanding to catch up on.
Embarrassing trying to throw that up as your justification. It is obvious Hos was trying to bunch your panties, which honestly looking at it from here, he did JUST THAT.

I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
~ BoB Stoops
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11-26-2012
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#163
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
Location: | Rochester, NY |
Posts: | 1,596 |
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Originally Posted by Numbers921
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not bad. but, it doesn't seem like some kind of proclamation or anything, though. Just an "I think", with an obvious jab after that line which really makes it look like it was really said for effect rather than an actual belief we would win out.
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HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-26-2012
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#164
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2008 |
Posts: | 2,355 |
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
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uh oh, my bad Catch and 921.
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11-26-2012
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#165
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas
 If you think that post substantiates ANYTHING you were trying to spin previously, you have a LOT of understanding to catch up on.
Embarrassing trying to throw that up as your justification. It is obvious Hos was trying to bunch your panties, which honestly looking at it from here, he did JUST THAT.

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True that. I had not even gone back and seen that thread to see how many people it got then. Apparently several.
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