Cap space if Miles was cut?

[RastaRocket]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

If we had good enough coaching, we wouldn't need to high-priced WR's. Look at what Belichick and the Patriots get by with. They'd slit their wrists before they ever paid a guy like Miles Austin the kind of money we gave him.

I think everybody is too caught up in the price. Until I see the cap truly restricting this team financially then I don't see the reason to cut anybody based mainly on cap space. I'd rather have less dead money. If they are expensive oh well; it's better than dead money which does nothing at all. Dez is on a rookie contract also so it's really not like we are paying tons of money for two wide receivers. That was Roy Williams.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by TheSport78

Crazier things have happened. I think Robinson does get cut.

Cutting Miles DOES help to fix the OL because it frees up cap space to address the OL in free agency. This organization cannot solely depend on the draft for the OL.

Have you seen the OL that will be available. Let's go give 3.5 to a OG that cant play and take away one of romo's targets. There aren't any OGs or Centers for us to get this offseason. There are some tackles available but that means we release Free which will be a 8.35 million cap hit just to release Free. Now you want to add more dead money.

[ABQCOWBOY]

So it's Austin's turn huh?


OK, well, I can understand why people are upset but I don't know that cutting Miles Austin is the answer. Heck, we have enough problems with Dez, do we really want to draft another WR high and try to bring them along because anybody who thinks we can replace him with what we have is wrong. Anybody who thinks we can bring in a quality WR to plug in for cheaper then what we would have left, minus a cap hit, is wrong. That would leave the draft and well, as everybody has said, we should be drafting OLs, not more WRs.

I would be interested in knowing how many times Austin has been targeted this season? Dez gets the lions share of the targets at WR, we all know that. Is the issue that Miles is not getting open or is the issue that he is not getting targeted? I wonder?

[TheSport78]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

Have you seen the OL that will be available. Let's go give 3.5 to a OG that cant play and take away one of romo's targets. There aren't any OGs or Centers for us to get this offseason. There are some tackles available but that means we release Free which will be a 8.35 million cap hit just to release Free. Now you want to add more dead money.

You have it backwards IMO. You don't build from the skill positions and in like the Cowboys have. You build in the trenches, then work on the skill positions.

Andy Levitre may be available, and he's a very solid interior lineman. Sadly, Free is probably getting one more year because of the dead money. Things have to change on the interior, pronto.

Take away one of Romo's targets? You mean take away the injury-prone WR who's getting paid like a #1 WR but plays like a #2? Oh, THAT guy.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by TheSport78

You have it backwards IMO. You don't build from the skill positions and in like the Cowboys have. You build in the trenches, then work on the skill positions.

Andy Levitre may be available, and he's a very solid interior lineman. Sadly, Free is probably getting one more year because of the dead money. Things have to change on the interior, pronto.

Take away one of Romo's targets? You mean take away the injury-prone WR who's getting paid like a #1 WR but plays like a #2? Oh, THAT guy.

Look at his stats, he still produces and romo still looks his way. Yes he Is overpaid.
I'm all for building in the trenches, I was the one that said deaft OL.

Austin has over 700 yards and 49 receptions with out playing the last game. Yes I want him to restructure his deal but cutting fixes nothing.

Levitre is good but he is the only one and he might not even be availble.

Paying big money for a OG is the answer, Levitre is good but sinxe he will be the best availble he will be over paid. We can get a real good starting day one OG in the late first or second round.

You think Free will stay and Miles will get cut. Why? Both will coat a lot and Austin actually produces something. Cutting miles and keeping free really doesn't solve anything, just makes us worse.

[TheSport78]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

Look at his stats, he still produces and romo still looks his way. Yes he Is overpaid.
I'm all for building in the trenches, I was the one that said deaft OL.

Austin has over 700 yards and 49 receptions with out playing the last game. Yes I want him to restructure his deal but cutting fixes nothing.

Levitre is good but he is the only one and he might not even be availble.

Paying big money for a OG is the answer, Levitre is good but sinxe he will be the best availble he will be over paid. We can get a real good starting day one OG in the late first or second round.

You think Free will stay and Miles will get cut. Why? Both will coat a lot and Austin actually produces something. Cutting miles and keeping free really doesn't solve anything, just makes us worse.

Easy to have INFLATED stats at the WR position when your QB throws the ball 62 TIMES and you're DEAD LAST in rushing.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by TheSport78

Easy to have INFLATED stats at the WR position when your QB throws the ball 62 TIMES and you're DEAD LAST in rushing.

A valid point but you have to be able to quantify it. How many throws are going to Dez and Witt? How many to Miles? That's really the only way you can look at that and know for certain that the number of throws in a game are in support of your position. I honestly don't know what that number looks like but I'd bet it's heavily weighted in favor of Dez and Witten.

That's just a guess of course.

[JBond]

Originally Posted by TheSport78

I don't know....AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN?

What the hell do we need one of those for? We all know Romo is at his best on the run.

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I would be interested in knowing how many times Austin has been targeted this season? Dez gets the lions share of the targets at WR, we all know that. Is the issue that Miles is not getting open or is the issue that he is not getting targeted? I wonder?

Per ESPN, Dez has been targeted 97 times.

Miles has been targeted 85 times.

Since Miles couldn't play last game, I'm guessing they are just about neck and neck in number of targets (when they both play).

Of course, that is the problem.....

Dez was targeted 11 times in the Washington game -- Miles was targeted 0 times (obviously).

So, remove the targets from the Washington game and it's 86/85.

That does not seem like a lion's share to me.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Per ESPN, Dez has been targeted 97 times.

Miles has been targeted 85 times.

Since Miles couldn't play last game, I'm guessing they are just about neck and neck in number of targets (when they both play).

Of course, that is the problem.....

Dez was targeted 11 times in the Washington game -- Miles was targeted 0 times (obviously).

So, remove the targets from the Washington game and it's 86/85.

That does not seem like a lion's share to me.

Before the washington game Dez had 57 catches for 735 yards as miles has 49 for 727. Pretty much the same, but people want Miles gone for qhat reason, I dont know. Why cut a guy for a 3.5 million cap savings when he produces. I do not want to create another hole or need. We don't even have a #3 WR much less release our #2.

[supercowboy8]

We can use 3.5 to sign a OL, who I don't know but just any I guess. I mean look we signed Mack bern last offseason. We need help on OL that Is for sure but cutting miles doesn't fix anything. No top OL is going to be availble and Dallas should have enough money to sign a good lineman.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

We can use 3.5 to sign a OL, who I don't know but just any I guess. I mean look we signed Mack bern last offseason. We need help on OL that Is for sure but cutting miles doesn't fix anything. No top OL is going to be availble and Dallas should have enough money to sign a good lineman.

If you do it right you free up 5 million and that is what you do when guys are past their contract and always injured you have to move on.

Yes it only frees up 3.5 million but you can not continue to pay guys 3.5 million more than their worth.

What we did with Barber and other guys. Hell we did it with groude and the coaches liked him.

[UncFelix28]

Andy Levitre should be the #1 priority come offseason.. solid in the pass & run. I think he & Tyron would make a great tandem on that left side of the line

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by UncFelix28

Andy Levitre should be the #1 priority come offseason.. solid in the pass & run. I think he & Tyron would make a great tandem on that left side of the line

Jarius Byrd is #1 on my list. Buffalo has a quick read pass offense so that helps the OL stats.

Alao we need a replacement for Free, I would rather spend the money on a tackle and get a rookie OG early.

Dallas has enough money to spend where 3.5 million won't make a difference.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

If you do it right you free up 5 million and that is what you do when guys are past their contract and always injured you have to move on.

Yes it only frees up 3.5 million but you can not continue to pay guys 3.5 million more than their worth.

What we did with Barber and other guys. Hell we did it with groude and the coaches liked him.

You can only make one player a June 1st cut and that shiuld be Free IMO. We should try a redo Austins contract but again who will be our #2 WR.