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Old 11-26-2012   #16
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In my opinion, the Cowboys shouldn't be a long shot. Peruse the rosters of the teams in contention for the final wild card spot and compare them against the Cowboys'.

If anything, the Cowboys' chances should be just as good if not better than their competitor's. The fact that we see them as a long shot speaks volumes, in my opinion.
Sorry, I don't have confidence in an offense that is dead last in rushing, injuries almost all across the board, including your two stud inside linebackers, and a team that is held back by its coaching. How are you down 28-3 to the Redskins, on Thanksgiving? I don't expect this team to win another GAME.
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.

2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.

3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.

4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.

5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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Old 11-26-2012   #17
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Stephen's right, we can still make playoffs, and still possibly win the division.
If neither of those things happen, we will finish 8-8, heck the whole division could end up 8-8,or at least the top 3.

for all the people that bash Romo, if Payton comes, Romo will be throwing the ball around like Brees does, which is no different than what we have been doing the past 2/3 games.

Penalties, boneheaded plays, missed tackles, not knowing defensive and offensive assignments, bad play, playcalling, injuries especially injuries derailed this season.

Country club mentality, needs to change, GM can stay the same, just let Garrett be as strict as he wants to be, stay the course with the HC, and the direction he's taking this team, keep getting his type of players, but spend money on the OL and DL.

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The last thing that comes to mind with this bunch is the postseason. Dallas plays a really bad brand of football. In fact, it's awful.

I wouldn't mind joining the We Still Have A Shot Crowd, except that nothing I have seen leads me to believe it can happen.
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The fact that we see them as a long shot speaks volumes, in my opinion.
About the team, or the fans?
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About the team, or the fans?
I'm not sure at this point.

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I have some swamp land in Florida we need to discuss.
Really? go look in the mirror and start discussing.
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Based on the current rosters of all the teams in contention for the final wildcard berth, from a pure talent standpoint, is there any reason to think the Cowboys' chances of making the playoffs shouldn't be at least as good as those teams' chances?
If we all had the same record, played the same schedule and we owned the tie-breaker, then this argument would apply.
Assuming GB gets one spot:
  • We are 5-6. There are 3 teams at 6-5 and one may as well be 7-4 b/c they own the tiebreaker.
  • We are very depleted with 4 or 5 of our very best players out right now...and 2-3 for the season.
  • We play a schedule with maybe one team (Philly) were we would be for sure expected to win. All the rest could go either way. Not that it means much in this league.
  • In reality, we will have to win 4-1 and have some luck, or go 5-0 to get in.
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If we all had the same record, played the same schedule and we owned the tie-breaker, then this argument would apply.
Assuming GB gets one spot:
  • We are 5-6. There are 3 teams at 6-5 and one may as well be 7-4 b/c they own the tiebreaker.
  • We are very depleted with 4 or 5 of our very best players out right now...and 2-3 for the season.
  • We play a schedule with maybe one team (Philly) were we would be for sure expected to win. All the rest could go either way. Not that it means much in this league.
  • In reality, we will have to win 4-1 and have some luck, or go 5-0 to get in.
This is actually a continuation of a discussion I was having in another thread so let me explain my reasoning here:

There are currently three teams with 6-5 records -- Minnesota, Seattle, and Tampa Bay. Minnesota plays at Green Bay next week. Seattle plays at Chicago. And Tampa Bay plays at Denver. There's a very good chance they will all lose because they're playing superior opponents on the road. Meanwhile, the Cowboys play a poor Eagles team at home. The Cowboys should be favored.

It's very possible all these teams, including the Cowboys, will be tied at 6-6 for the final wildcard berth. The Cowboys win the tiebreaker against the Bucs, but lose it against the Seahawks.

The Seahawks are about to lose both starting corners to suspension. The Bucs rank 30th in total defense and dead last in pass defense. The Vikings must play the Packers twice, the Bears, and the Texans over their last five games.

Are you telling me that, if all these teams were 6-6 at the end of next week, the Cowboys wouldn't have at least as good a chance at making the playoffs as any one of them?
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This is actually a continuation of a discussion I was having in another thread so let me explain my reasoning here:

There are currently three teams with 6-5 records -- Minnesota, Seattle, and Tampa Bay. Minnesota plays at Green Bay next week. Seattle plays at Chicago. And Tampa Bay plays at Denver. There's a very good chance they will all lose because they're playing superior opponents on the road. Meanwhile, the Cowboys play a poor Eagles team at home. The Cowboys should be favored.

It's very possible all these teams, including the Cowboys, will be tied at 6-6 for the final wildcard berth. The Cowboys win the tiebreaker against the Bucs, but lose it against the Seahawks.

The Seahawks are about to lose both starting corners to suspension. The Bucs rank 30th in total defense and dead last in pass defense. The Vikings must play the Packers twice, the Bears, and the Texans over their last five games.

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You're forgetting one important factor: the Cowboys have to win.

You've watched the games. What makes you think this team can get to 9 or 10 wins?
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.

2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.

3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.

4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.

5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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You're forgetting one important factor: the Cowboys have to win.

You've watched the games. What makes you think this team can get to 9 or 10 wins?
Based on what we've seen thus far, you're absolutely right. There's no reason to think the Cowboys will get to 9 or 10 wins. But this ties into my larger point, which is this: Why don't we have any reason to think the Cowboys could get to 9 or 10 wins? Are they really any less talented than the Bucs, Seahawks, and Vikings? Expectations shouldn't be this low.
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Based on what we've seen thus far, you're absolutely right. There's no reason to think the Cowboys will get to 9 or 10 wins. But this ties into my larger point, which is this: Why don't we have any reason to think the Cowboys could get to 9 or 10 wins? Are they really any less talented than the Bucs, Seahawks, and Vikings? Expectations shouldn't be this low.
It's not really about talent with this team. I don't think the Cowboys are a top talent team, but I don't think they're at the bottom of the list either.

They're missing something, intangible wise. They always come out flat. They never execute in short yardage. Running the ball isn't even an option. The offensive line has been a disaster throughout the entire season. They've had a ridiculous amount of injuries, and the coaching, or the lack of coaching doesn't help either. Just my two cents. Jerry, Garrett, the players and the organization in general have lowered my expectations, but that's just me.
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.

2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.

3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.

4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.

5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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please stop the delusion
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Yeah man, it can happen. Im sure you are aware that its unlikely but the wonderful forum members will be sure to remind you that youre a idiot for thinking about it. You should probably just delete this thread and make another praising Sean Payton, like all the other cool kids.
Rooting for a long shot is just insane.
You are so morally superior to the rest of us aren't you? Anyone still thinking we are going to make the playoffs needs to have their head examined. Half of the team is hurt; we just lost to the Skins at home, while the Giants just blew out the Packers. It ain't happen folks. We aren't going to win more than one or two games the rest of the year. We will finish 7-9 or 6-10. Injuries will be the excuse to maintain the status quo and we will do it all over again next year.

BTW, OP why does Phillip Tanner need to be purged? What in the world has he done to anyone?
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Not with this offensive line. Not with this head coach. Not with this owner/gm.

No way, no how, not gonna happen.
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This is actually a continuation of a discussion I was having in another thread so let me explain my reasoning here:

There are currently three teams with 6-5 records -- Minnesota, Seattle, and Tampa Bay. Minnesota plays at Green Bay next week. Seattle plays at Chicago. And Tampa Bay plays at Denver. There's a very good chance they will all lose because they're playing superior opponents on the road. Meanwhile, the Cowboys play a poor Eagles team at home. The Cowboys should be favored.

It's very possible all these teams, including the Cowboys, will be tied at 6-6 for the final wildcard berth. The Cowboys win the tiebreaker against the Bucs, but lose it against the Seahawks.

The Seahawks are about to lose both starting corners to suspension. The Bucs rank 30th in total defense and dead last in pass defense. The Vikings must play the Packers twice, the Bears, and the Texans over their last five games.

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I think you forgot to mention the Saints. They are also 5-6 and IMO are the most dangerous of the 5-6 lot of teams. If the Saints beat Atlanta on Thursday Night and I expect them to since they have always had their # then this race once again goes into a six team race for the final spot.
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